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Genebaby wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:24 am I'm not sure on that, Animalize was top 20 and was a big deal at the time. I don't think LIU reached into the top 20.

Lick It Up was #19 on Cashbox for 2 weeks
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Animalize peaked on Cashbox at #19. It was there 2 weeks
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At the end of the day where is my fucking VV Archives Box Set that was paid for 24 years ago. In my opinion that would define a liar and a thief who steals from his fans. Further Cusano comes back to the public eye and promises the world many things including 2 sets of Archives for those who purcha...

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Omg. Up all night video and fly to the angels was on MTV so much I used to.flip over. I lived it and saw it in high school. Unbelievable that you tell me that MTV didn't care . The song went massive immediately. I think about a week after album came out and that had no publicity until the MTV. You ...

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Also did you know stick it to ya went double platinum just one year after release ? Something only a few kiss albums sold and non since alive 2. Stick it to ya sold more than both kiss albums vv was involved with and both vvi albums combined . Remember this was 1990 when this music was dying . Vinn...

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Tell me this ? If vvi was so hot why Chrysalis not pick up the option for 3rd release and why no majors knocking at the door to sign him ? Record labels want to make money and if vv was selling more than the numbers show they would have been knocking down doors. Your argument is really dumb You are...

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Upon its release it was the removal of the makeup that gave the band the most traction. It didn't hurt that the album was also fantastic, but KISS learnt with Creatures that people listen with their eyes. As I've had to say before, the direction of Creatures was set by Gene and Paul as a direct ret...

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But sure it was all because the makeup was off. It wasn't because all those who bought COTN rushed out. Sounds 10/22/1983 As Kerrang also mentioned, the album was at 1M US and 1.5M WW around August 1985. Thank goodness for all those great Vinnie songs on COTN and LIU. And thank you Vinnie for drivin...

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And what's also funny, "Love Kills" spent numerous weeks in Medium Rotation on MTV (remember, the trolls claim Vinnie never got any rotation) but it was also a #1 Dial-MTV hit numreous times and on that list almost everyday during its time. VVI was in countless magazines, you name it. Hugely success...

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Now lets look at the video airplay BOYZ are got. Vinnie got more airplay for Boyz than KISS did "Crazy Nights" But remember, the haters & liars claimed Vinnie even got any rotation. But yet, he beat KISS! And that first month of sales from Invasion that set a record for Chrysalis (that still stood e...

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So I was wrong. I said MTV ignored "Up All Night" for rotation for 4 weeks. It was actually longer than that. Vinnie got added immediately etc. But MTV sure didn't like Slaughter to begin with. They actually kept it out of rotation for 5 weeks! Stick It To Ya was released and had already moved up to...

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Omg. Up all night video and fly to the angels was on MTV so much I used to.flip over. I lived it and saw it in high school. Unbelievable that you tell me that MTV didn't care . The song went massive immediately. I think about a week after album came out and that had no publicity until the MTV. You ...

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I would hardly call my perceptions poor as i stated and you seem to missread i was alive and watched first hand how kiss were perceived and what they put out first hand lol The facts you keep putting out are very revisionist as i said it is not a slight to what you have read and what your perceptio...

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No, that was just the relevant bit, but here you go: https://www.loudersound.com/features/rare-cuts-make-up-contests-and-chef-paul-stanley-eight-awesome-things-we-learned-on-board-kiss-kruise-2022 I wouldn't have posted the link either when you get to see all the other laughable garbage in there Fr...

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Here is the deal, you are welcome here, everyone is welcome here but there is a basic etiquette and common respect and courtesy that we share with our fellow human beings. Debate vigorously and share your facts but do so without calling someone (Doublev2 or Genebaby) a fucking liar. I'm not debatin...

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Here is the deal, you are welcome here, everyone is welcome here but there is a basic etiquette and common respect and courtesy that we share with our fellow human beings. Debate vigorously and share your facts but do so without calling someone (Doublev2 or Genebaby) a fucking liar. I'm not debatin...

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We don't have the insight into Derek you seem to have, so what can we say? If anyone does that stuff, it's not cool, but where is your proof? You've asked me for proof on things and I've shown you. Here's just one good example of Derek and it includes links to lawsuits etc Sued by credit card compa...

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Yes genebaby all you said is pretty much spot on to how i see it and feel about it 👍 Funny there are Aussie people who thought Australia 1980 was some huge success. Thankfully we know the facts on what a huge money loser that was. Always helps to know the real facts instead of poor perceptions

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Madmark wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:20 am Interesting and a very revisionistic take on it.

No revision at all. Reality backed up with facts. And that's why Vinnie was hailed as the Savior of KISS back then. And Vinnie getting so much positive press for Lick It Up made Paul very jealous of Vinnie.

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Revenge sold better than HITS (maybe, I am taking your word for it, don't really care) but I have been telling my son about KISSTORY and explained how much they pinned their hopes on Crazy Nights being huge, it and the tour wasn't. Then they did HITS, which was done on the cheap and is almost demos...

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While he was indeed a great player songwriter and from what i have heard a very good singer one thing he wasn't and that was kiss saviour I was old enough to go through the vinnie era kiss and it was taking off the makeup that gave them a small boost not the lick it up lp I am not saying his contri...

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He couldn't keep his job in KISS, he could't keep his band together, he couldn't release the next album (Euphoria doesn't count for much) and now he can't function and play in a real band setting, so it's just as sadly over. We can admit this, as painful as it is, considering the potential of what ...

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Genebaby wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:50 pm

I bet he was hoping PBF would stay quiet the whole time. He did something similar by saying he was re-recording ASG go with Robert, and Robert was like, "WTF, NO".

Where's the exact quotes on those? You've got to have it. Post it

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At the end of the day where is my fucking VV Archives Box Set that was paid for 24 years ago. In my opinion that would define a liar and a thief who steals from his fans. Further Cusano comes back to the public eye and promises the world many things including 2 sets of Archives for those who purcha...

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Here is the deal, you are welcome here, everyone is welcome here but there is a basic etiquette and common respect and courtesy that we share with our fellow human beings. Debate vigorously and share your facts but do so without calling someone (Doublev2 or Genebaby) a fucking liar. I'm not debatin...

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Genebaby wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm Hmmm, a just published piece about The Guns on the very recent KISS Kruise......315293038_703112981174200_8181202047016691887_n.jpg

Too embarrassed to say where that came from?

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At the end of the day where is my fucking VV Archives Box Set that was paid for 24 years ago. In my opinion that would define a liar and a thief who steals from his fans. Further Cusano comes back to the public eye and promises the world many things including 2 sets of Archives for those who purcha...

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I’m all up for freedom of speech You'd rather the board be filled with Vinnie haters like yourself instead of those who speak the truth and shoot down the numerous lies with facts You probably hate Elon Musk just like Julian Gill does. Because Julian loves left wingers and he hates free speech

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Why exactly is Derek a "criminal"? Maybe you don't think lying to credit card companies etc is any big deal. You are probably cool with Derek stealing money and saying a concert happened when it didn't. ooohhh lying to credit card companies..ooohh . Committing Fraud. No big deal. Lying to credit ca...

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Ok vinnie Co wrote some good songs vinnie was a good rock guitarist and also a good vocalist his invasion stuff although not well received (yes I am old enought to remember and was at rocknroll heaven in Toronto to see them) was good Jake e lee was and is a great guitarist who co wrote a couple of ...

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$500 is a LOT. If I happened to be in the US at the time of this event, nearby even, I would not be interested in paying that much for an event. Vinnie has a bad habit of trying to get a few sales at a very high price vs the classic scenario of selling many things at very reasonable prices. Bigger ...

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Genebaby wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:18 am At the end of the day, where is the new music? Another lie from Vinnie?

A lie? Do you know the definition of a lie? I don't think you do.

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At the end of the day where is my fucking VV Archives Box Set that was paid for 24 years ago. In my opinion that would define a liar and a thief who steals from his fans. Further Cusano comes back to the public eye and promises the world many things including 2 sets of Archives for those who purcha...

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I am hearing that Pretty Boy Floyd are saying they are not involved in this "event". They were set for the Christmas event. Vinnie moved the show because it was too close to Christmas. I personally, think he should have moved it further away from January. With inflation running so high, $500 on a t...

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Funny how you fail to mention LA Guns went home broke and they couldn't find another tour after they got kicked off the VVI tour. Yeah, it sounds like they were really doing great. They are still out there working hard touring and earning a living nearly 40 years later. Imagine that. Still touring ...

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Up All Night a hit from moment played on MTV. And no VVI fans were not demanding Slaughter and VVI was not being played on MTV. Barely on Headbangers Ball. They did bring The All Systems go videos back to headbangers ball after Slaughter made it and added featuring Mark Slaughter . That TIme of Yea...

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I will used to go to concerts from 1987 to 1991 in a Vinnie Vincent Invasion shirt. I never ever saw anyone elese ever where a VVI shirt. Also most people didn't know VVI when asking about my shirt of like I said if they did they knew the Tina Turner wig 1986 version Boys are gonna rock.. VVI were ...

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Slaughter did not benefit from VV fan base lol. They didn't even adverise it and so few people knew Mark was in VVI and not only that most people didn't even know VVI had a second record out. You are totally dillusional. lol VVI All systems go selling half a million lol hahah thats so insane to say...

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Why exactly is Derek a "criminal"? Maybe you don't think lying to credit card companies etc is any big deal. You are probably cool with Derek stealing money and saying a concert happened when it didn't. ooohhh lying to credit card companies..ooohh . Committing Fraud. No big deal. Lying to credit ca...

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Lol dude your a laugh you can be a fan and still live in reality Which one was better than Vinnie back then? Any of them save KISS other than Vinnie? Nope Any of them come up with 3 incredible solo albums like he did? Invasion, ASG and Guitarmageddon? Any of them write lets say 35 tracks off their ...

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Why are you so into name calling? Can you please stop, I don't even know Fetterman. He was asking what's happening at the Christmas show, not past shows, and you didn't explain what you were doing so there was no connection. Can you show us the information for the show? Because really nobody thinks...

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aeroflott wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:36 pm Why exactly is Derek a "criminal"?

Maybe you don't think lying to credit card companies etc is any big deal. You are probably cool with Derek stealing money and saying a concert happened when it didn't.

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and even the Chrysalis people admit that Slaughter broke because of all the VVI fans. Without them, Slaughter would have never gone anywhere. But Double V is always full of shit Interesting. You got a link or some proof that "the Chrysalis people admit that Slaughter broke because of all the VVI fa...

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https://blabbermouth.net/news/w-a-s-p-s ... department

I'm surprised the fans didn't "rip and destroy" that venue after the cancellation.

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pullitt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:40 pm Nice! Looks like it'd been quite the shoving match.

At least for the real publicity pic, Vinnie was front and center where he belonged. Easily the best out of all that group.

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Maybe you're Joe Biden. What I meant was, where did all that come from in the context of this post? Why did you re-post all that stuff? It made no sense to me for all that to suddenly appear. Biden style. You are Fetterman! Your brain is scrambled like his. The OP was asking what it would be like. ...

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In the 80s there were only a handful of super fans unlike now. You had to find unofficial books. Get goldmine, record collector and kerrang and interview discs to know about kiss details and then piece the whole thing together yourself. Not many would or could do this . What a stupid ass thing to s...

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People think that the audience had any idea who was up on stage. I went with my dad to see animalize show and virtually no one knew eric Carr and definitely not Bruce. People were not fans like they are now and had very few outlets to know anything about bands. I would go to kiss shows in 87 to 199...

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LA guns were getting played all the time on mtv. Vvi hardly at all. You have absolutely no idea. LA Guns were way way bigger than vvi even at that stage. I was shocked to hear they were opening for vvi. That's a fucking lie! MTV played the shit out of Boyz Are Gonna Rock. Once again, all you can do...

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Not only did I NEVER hear vvi all systems go tunes played on z rock or any radio it was limited to a few headbangers ball shows . I admit that after slaughter made it they played vvi stuff on the ball in early 1990. As for la guns they were all over the radio and on MTV including outside of the bal...

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People not minding Lip-Synching KISS and them ripping off everyone.

Amazing the excuses some with come up with for Gene and Paul

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