Red Charvel 1

mylittleguitar · Post by **mylittleguitar** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:39 am

Same as the Black Charvel, here is the red one. I don't know if this neck version is the first or if it's the other.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:09 am

Excellent !!!! I thought that was an actual guitar .

I believe Vinnie was the first to have EMG pickups AND a Floyd Rose on a guitar. A staple of Rock guitar ever since.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:27 am

I read EMG's were on steinbergers in 1981. Steinburgers were very popular in Europe. But you are correct VV may have been the first guitar player to use them in a famous band

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:39 am

doublev2 wrote:I read EMG's were on steinbergers in 1981. Steinburgers were very popular in Europe. But you are correct VV may have been the first guitar player to use them in a famous band

...with a Floyd Rose.

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:27 am

close up of headstock .....

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:28 am

This pic above is the other neck that was on it. (just to clarify) The neck with the darker wood fretboard

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:40 am

The Maple one piece neck that was on it had a Jackson logo on the headstock....

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:49 am

In my opinion that red "strat style" guitar that he used on the C.O.T.N tour had at least 3 photographed different neck changes. The pics I posted show 2 of the 3 .... The pic of the 3rd one I have on a poster and it doesn't look like a Charvel or Jackson logo but it's a logo that I do not recognize .

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:11 am

Agreed . Some guy said the body was made across the street.from the new York guitar store vv worked in and where he wrote bots.

mylittleguitar · Post by **mylittleguitar** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:36 am

I'm not sure that Grover Jackson had his logo in 1982 - 83, he was still working for Charvel. For the logo with the ebony fretboard, I think it's the very early Charvel logo.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:54 am

It's such a good model. Great work.

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:59 am

I agree mylittleguitar does a awesome job on these..... On the Jackson logo, I think it was one of the 1st Jackson logo's ...I'll check my pic file to see if i have a better, mofre clear shot of it.... but if you look close, I think you can see it's not the Charvel logo

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:05 am

That's not a Charvel logo as we know it, and the Charvel logo was around since the 70's. The Jackson logo was available as Randy's guitars were built and they featured it.

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:06 am

That logo seems to mimic the Charvel one though.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:07 am

mylittleguitar wrote:I'm not sure that Grover Jackson had his logo in 1982 - 83, he was still working for Charvel. For the logo with the ebony fretboard, I think it's the very early Charvel logo.

Randy Rhoads********Grover had the basic Jackson logo in 1981 when both of these guitars were built.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:26 am

Like I said some guy who.worked with vv at we buy guitars or whatever it was called said this guitar was built across the street. I don't think it started out life as a charvel but who knows. The logo is certainly.different.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:28 am

I understand that it isn't a Charvel/Jackson guitar. I was just pointing out the obvious about the replacement necks.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:32 am

Yes i.agree. rick I am skimming these posts so forgive me .

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:06 am

Always happy. Never a need for forgiveness

mylittleguitar · Post by **mylittleguitar** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:41 pm

So, that means I have to make another Red Charvel and change the logo on the maple neck

That's why I want to make his guitars in miniature, it's easy to complete his gear and to have all the variant of his guitars. It could be great if he accepts to speak about it... I'm actually doing this with Bruce Kulick, he's very nice and take the time to answer to all my questions.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:41 pm

He did mention it in private but not in detail. He just said it was a guitar he never liked and used it while other guitars were being worked on.

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:35 am

Yes Rick, I believe the Jackson logo on that 1 piece maple neck is of the early handpainted variety... The one with the large "J" and large "K" similar to the logo that is on the headstock of the white Concord V that is in the pic of Randy that you posted. For some reason the pics that I posted are no longer visible to me?
Vic, any Idea why? Can everyone else see them ?

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:38 am

Can not see them either.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:39 am

Maybe vv had the source host take them down?

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:43 am

never mind, i can see them now....

mylittleguitar · Post by **mylittleguitar** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:55 pm

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metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:03 am

Cool

Post by **Streetbeat** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:09 am

Time to do the Gene Simmons Spectors !

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:00 am

Did sammy say spector?

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:51 am

Spector? I don't even know her .

heavystef · Post by **heavystef** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:53 am

Does anyone know the exact type or model name of vinnie's red charvel? I will need one...

on ebay i found: nothing...

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:48 am

It was an assembled guitar of different parts! Does anyone even know if it was in fact Charvel or Jackson parts on it? Maybe it just had a Charvel sticker on the head, then a Jackson sticker (maybe was a Jackson made neck) when it had it's neck replaced???

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:15 am

Shram is correct. PARTS GUITAR

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:18 am

a guy came on here saying the body was made for Vinnie in New York City while he was working at the guitar store he wrote Back on the streets at. He said it was the place across the road from the store vv worked at actually.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:14 pm

Yes! What Dino said!

heavystef · Post by **heavystef** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:17 pm

Just working on my own... all needed parts are available on the net...

Post by **Genebaby** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:59 am

Yeah, just build your own man.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:31 pm

This is a quote from the guy talking about the red strat....

cusano used to work at a guitar shop across the street from my old job in nyc this is maybe 79/80/81? called guitar man guitars not around anymore ...he used one of their custom made strats first tours with kiss ...saw a poster from italy where hes playing a red one......after he joined kiss the nice guy I met became a jerk ......long story.....this is just between you and me ...hey what do you play?

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:47 pm

"I play brown", would have been the answer!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:33 am

I play in my imagination but reality kicks my ass. When people ask me what I play I usually never hear back from them again.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:08 pm

for what its worth he said that he never really liked this guitar. But you can not trust vv. He said he ran over his guitar with the tour bus and it turned out he just repainted it.

heavystef wrote:Does anyone know the exact type or model name of vinnie's red charvel? I will need one...

on ebay i found: nothing...

Trixxy · Post by **Trixxy** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:19 am

get the Jackson Adrian Smith signature, repaint it and change the pickguard

Trixxy · Post by **Trixxy** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:23 am

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:29 am

Good point Trixxy!

heavystef · Post by **heavystef** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:36 pm

It's the same as charvel san dimas and other pro models. the body ist too shaped. I will get a customized body without any shapings, an original charvel neck, floyd rose trem

and the EMGs seperately. It WILL work, you'll see...

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:47 pm

the red body with white pickup is almost 50s looking. the more I look at it the more I like it. It can cross over to a 60s garage band as well as rock.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:48 pm

i can speak to the guy who knows the guy who made it. he maybe still alive and willing to make one for you.. let me know if you want me to ask?

heavystef · Post by **heavystef** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:57 pm

wow, that would be soooo cooool! but I think, I am not able to pay it. but, ask him.
thank you so much!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:58 pm

i will see if the guy is still alive. Maybe he is. who knows.

heavystef · Post by **heavystef** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:01 pm

I found this for the neck, neckplate, hardware and other pieces...

http://stores.ebay.de/The-STRATosphere/ ... =105525814