Just wow!

[tseeker]

I've been lurking here and doing a great deal of reading (on and off) for the last several months.

I guess that I should start out by saying that I'm not (and never have been) a VV fan. In fact, I believe that I can honestly say that I've lived the last 30 years, without ever having a conscious thought of Vinnie Vincent.

What led me here was that my daughter was doing an 80's icon, biography type of thing for a school project...And she was doing hers on KISS. And at some point, while helping her, it occurred to me that 80's KISS would have been VV/Eric Carr and not Ace/Peter.

Anyhow, I've always had a natural curiosity about what happened to various musicians, actors, ect...After their 15 minutes of fame. And I often find myself Googling some blast from the past, after hearing an old song or watching some old tv show.

Sometimes I find that they simply stepped out of the spotlight and took on behind the scene roles, in their industry.

Sometimes I find that they got out of the industry all together and now live quiet lives, in some small town. Perhaps they own a business or have persued some other career, maybe raised a family and living a normal life.

Sometimes I find that they quietly passed away, after years of battling any number of health problems.

There are also those who have spiraled down to an incomprehensible level of disfunction that we can only shake our heads in disbelief.

After Googling and investigating hundreds of names, throughout the years...I can say (without a doubt) that this is by far, the most F***ed up mess that I have ever run across...

And yet it's also the most intriguing



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[tukoztukoz]

"The most intriguing": true! And nothing happens. Waiting for Godot. Maybe he will come tomorrow...

[AnkhWarrior]

It is indeed, intriguing. The whole idea of VV is intriguing in itself.
Even if none of the crazy drama ever happened with VV, he would still without a doubt, be as popular as he is now; maybe even more so.

Either way, I am still waiting to see what could possibly happen next; even though things have been a tad quiet for a while

[shramiac]

What AW said!

[Arjen]

A lot has happened with our favorite guitar shredder. But like always, stories get twisted, turned and they become even worse or benefit other parties better. But the truth is always somewhere in the middle.

Its a waste he left the spotlight many years ago .. VV could have a very decent career. Even to this day, but he chooses differently.

[doublev2]

like always?????

A lot has happened with our favorite guitar shredder. But like always, stories get twisted, turned and they become even worse or benefit other parties better. But the truth is always somewhere in the middle.

Its a waste he left the spotlight many years ago .. VV could have a very decent career. Even to this day, but he chooses differently.

[AnkhWarrior]

However he chooses to live his life, so be it.

Even with it being saddening not being able to see him do what he does best, here and now.

[doublev2]

for most of the people here the VVI, and VV Kiss albums are part of us. Listened to them growing up and shaped our music lives. For me sure did. From 9 years old until 15 VV was the guy I listened and followed the most. Even cried when I read the news in Kerrang that VVI broke up in 1988.

[AnkhWarrior]

Lucky you. I wasn't alive at the time. But if I had the choice to be, I would have. Such great music back then.

The way things are now though, it is what it is.

[doublev2]

Great days. I know people dispute this but by the time asg came out vvi were pretty obscure. I remember being very upset at school the day after I read the news of vvi break up and a lot of the metal guys didnt really know vvi and virtually no kiss fans around in high school at the time. I played in bands and battle of the bands competitions and.very few of.the other bands knew vvi. Some had heard boyz are gonna rock.but certainly.not ashes to.ashes . had one friend who was into vvi and kiss. People seem to think and argue that vvi were huge but simply not the case. Cetainly very very few knew the names mark slaughter and dana until slaughter broke .

[shramiac]

Sadly, that's pretty true! The only guys who liked Vinnie that I knew were because I turned them onto him.

Actually, that's not quite true....everyone in my Year 11 class knew of VVI because I made my own screen printed shirt that I wore during PE class.

Unfortunately, I kinda did it wrong and it sort of said InvaVsion!!! Still the only screen print I've ever done!

I think the remains of it are in a drawer at home!!!!! I wore that sucka out!

[doublev2]

By the time 1988 came about in our school thrash metal was more popular. The rock bands people listened to were crue, ratt, dokken, maiden, priest mainly. Vvi did get pretty good magazine exposure but didnt seem to help. The headbangers ball hosting didn't seem to do much either. Also dont forger the ball started at 11pm and finished at 2am so was not huge viewing figures. I watched the ball every week and while vvi were together I only saw that time of year once. I maybe wrong but I think love kills video may have been played only on a few shows in day and not on the ball. Actually I think vvi split a,few weeks after love kills came out. The single was released after band split. I know after vvi split they got more plays even after slaughter hit.

[Arjen]

like always?????

When that come to your regular KISS fans: yes

[VinnieFan]

Vinnie was an integral part of Kiss getting back on the map.

Doesn't mean that he isn't warped / jaded / bitter etc.
However, I think I would be too if I was treated the way he was by the Kiss Organization.

Enjoy reading.