Vinnie, This Is For You, From Me.

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:22 pm

Dear Vinnie,
How many times have I started my letters like that...Vinnie, you had a quote in a magazine that I read, that is one of my all time favorite quotes. You said: "Talent, that's what makes the world go
round."

Where is the man that said this? Talent like yours should be out there shining. We are all
so hungry for something new from you. Anything. Your talent is why I think about you all the time, why I play your music so loud, and smile and enjoy it so much. Your talent is why its so hard for me to accept that you are not putting out new music and also why I do say that I love you so much. When I think of all the talent you possess, all the things you could do, I get so frustrated that you are not creating new music. We all feel this way.

You have to know that there is no hatred because hatred is petty. We are all fans here waiting for you. Believing in you. I believe in you and have been shot down so many times because of it, but something won't let me go and give up on you. Because I know what you are capable of and I really do feel like you will come back and give us all something again.

I'm writing this as an open letter to you. There is so much of an outpouring of love for you, you just don't see it or realize. What about that tribute album that was made in honor of you? The numerous requests to interview you on 'That Metal Show'? That show is the speaking voice for metal music now, and they want you on the show. Your fans, have been begging you for new material, so many blogs are being set up for you and about you. Fans are ready now more than ever for something. The time is right for your come back.

Bury the hatchet. Forgive and forget anything that bothers you. No one is perfect and the world would not be perfect anyway if everyone was. Imperfection is beautiful because its human and real. I am not as strong or hard on you as I should be, that's because I sympathise with you and have this unshakable crush. But I am going to try and be as coarse as I can right now and say that if you are capable to return, that is to say your health is well and somewhere in your heart there is a small yearn to come back...You need to return NOW.

However, if the reasons for not returning are a sort of bitterness or spite for something untangable, I don't think that is entirely fair. Hear me out please Vinnie. You are a man who can surely overlook things you do not agree with and accept that not everything you read is going to be in your favor. Believe me, no more than you would I like to see things that way. But the reality is that is reality. People are always going to try and knock you down, but its up to you to decide if you want to get back up again and fight harder.

As a girl who is probably way more in love with you than she ought to be, I would love for nothing more than to see you get up from this fight, stronger than before and show the world that you can still do it. If only all it could take was my strong belief in you...

Make 2012 something special.

Brooklyn_Born · Post by **Brooklyn_Born** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:52 pm

Well done Girl, Beautiful message...

birnie · Post by **birnie** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:50 pm

'Love' it

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:05 pm

Will Vinnie hear GR's call? Will the message get through?

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:31 am

Tick tock tick tock.…………….

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:31 am

I'd like to think he is not a lost cause, but with each passing year and each painful set-up/knock-down it gets harder to stay positive.
I wouldn't even care about getting my money back on the box-set or an open apology to his fans for his behavior if he'd just put out a CD at a normal cost that wasn't a re-issue or a crappy jam-session recording.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:15 am

Vinnie, take note... Glenn Hughes just turned 60 last year, the dude has been on every drug imaginable and got clean (at least one obstacle, as far as I know, that Vinnie never had to overcome) and is still out there kickin' it with Black Country Communion.

Cusano, get your shit together dude...

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metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:24 am

Very well put gonnarock.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:25 am

shramiac wrote:Tick tock tick tock.…………….

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What you waiting
What you waiting
What you waiting
What you waiting
What you waiting for!?

Tick tock
Tick tock
Tick tock
Tick tock

Take a chance you stupid whore

Like an echo pedal, you're repeating yourself
You know it all by heart
Why are you standing in one place?
Born to blossom, bloom to perish

Your moment will run out
Cuz of your sex chromosome
I know it's so messed up how our society all thinks (for sure)
Life is short, you're capable (uh huh)
Oh... oh ohhh

What you waiting
What you waiting
What you waiting
What you waiting
What you waiting for!?

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:30 am

Genebaby wrote:Will Vinnie hear GR's call? Will the message get through?

I guess time will only tell. I hope he does. It was something written to him from my heart.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:32 am

He doesn't give one fuck about any heartfelt letters.

Vdog · Post by **Vdog** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:55 am

The reality is that Cusano thinks you are a piece of garbage, a worthless maggot who he wishes he could get rid of permanently. He doesn't want to know what anyone thinks, wishes or wants. He doesn't care if you wish him well, the sentiment is NOT reciprocated in any way. Live, die or go jump off a bridge........it won't touch him in any way.

Don't be offended by what I say, he thinks the same way about all of us. Why am I here then ? I'm here for when he makes the news again. Might not be this week, but it's in the mail. I'm just watching & waiting for the entertainment to begin. I am honestly not overly concerned with any "comeback". I had a brief moment of excitement about that kind of stuff when I was on his forum, but I knew It was never going to happen. Even conversations about his "pristine" demo's and rare things, my musical tastes have moved on since the 80's. His music is dated, his guitar playing has been bettered many times over since he was considered a hot player. His time has passed, he wasted most of it. He's nothing more than a sad curiosity to me.

GR, save your honest emotions for people who deserve it. This man is a disgrace to his fans, his peers & his family.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:59 am

Amen and pass the cornbread.

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:23 am

poserboy71 wrote:He doesn't give one fuck about any heartfelt letters.

I know...

Maybe I should have changed this title to: 'Vinnie this is for me, to write about you.' Its not something that I would think he would even care about. Just felt good to write it.

Vdog wrote:The reality is that Cusano thinks you are a piece of garbage, a worthless maggot who he wishes he could get rid of permanently. He doesn't want to know what anyone thinks, wishes or wants. He doesn't care if you wish him well, the sentiment is NOT reciprocated in any way. Live, die or go jump off a bridge........it won't touch him in any way.

Don't be offended by what I say, he thinks the same way about all of us. Why am I here then ? I'm here for when he makes the news again. Might not be this week, but it's in the mail. I'm just watching & waiting for the entertainment to begin. I am honestly not overly concerned with any "comeback". I had a brief moment of excitement about that kind of stuff when I was on his forum, but I knew It was never going to happen. Even conversations about his "pristine" demo's and rare things, my musical tastes have moved on since the 80's. His music is dated, his guitar playing has been bettered many times over since he was considered a hot player. His time has passed, he wasted most of it. He's nothing more than a sad curiosity to me.

GR, save your honest emotions for people who deserve it. This man is a disgrace to his fans, his peers & his family.

That's cool, he doesn't have to feel the same way. I have moved on from expecting that he would.

I still enjoy Vinnie's music and it makes me happy. I like him as a rockstar and that is all. You haven't offended me because I already know all of this. And I accept it.

I don't mind how Vinnie thinks of me, because how I think of him is really all that matters. I'm at peace with these things now. I just wrote this because I wanted to. It was really more for myself than Vinnie. He can read it if he wants to and if it does something for him, that is great and if it doesn't that's okay too.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:16 am

That's very cool. I used to feel the same way until he made things personal.

vvjunkie · Post by **vvjunkie** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:48 am

GR,

Just like me I speak from the heart towards Vinnie. My whole life I did and still do I use to tell people off when they would tell me bad things about him. I guess I had to find out how he is which is sad it really hurt me. I bleed for him he was and still is my life. Remembering all the good times and now trying to forget the bad times. I still listen to his music watch my videos and look at my scrapbook eveyday its what I do when I get up and when I go to sleep it keeps me sane. I love looking at his eyes so beautiful. His smile makes me smile. I remember telling him how much his song "MAYBE ITS THE RAIN" helped me when I my beautiful sister Toni pass away in 2010 her and I was never close but it helped me he was honored and left me feeling happy because he has been everything to me. Words alone can not speak what I feel for him. He put the stake thru my heart and it still hurts. But I picked myself up and can walk the moonlight again. I'm glad you feel for him in the way you do. We all try to keep the faith that one day our dreams of vinnie will come to us. And I'm sure he's read this and maybe would relize the love we have for him is true and speaks volume. You sound like me when I was your age you live and breathe vinnie. I love the way you speak about him I write my poems about him. Maybe we should put out a book about the fans of vinnie. VINNIES FALLEN ANGELS. Vinnie when you read this and I know you will. I have given you my all everything I did for you was out of love you helped me when I was in a dark place so come out of yours.

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:12 am

Thank you vvjunkie.

Your words are very touching to me and very much like my own. Vinnie's song 'Maybe Its The Rain' is very special to me too, because whenever I start to think about him like this, I always think like the lyrics of that song. Maybe its the rain, maybe its the sunshine that has me thinking like this. I don't know, but I look at Vinnie's pictures everyday too and I think with a smile at the good things he has done and the hard times his music has pulled me through. I had my times too that Vinnie's music helped me. High school is never easy for anyone and I had my share too. Vinnie's music always has great messages and talks of being your own self and doing what can make you happy. It helped me to have something to identify with. I know that it can't be the way I want it to be, and that does make me very sad, but like you said, there are the memories of the good times and that is what I like to focus on.

Vdog · Post by **Vdog** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:24 am

I remember Cusano saying we should put photo's of ourselves on the forum, you know......to make it more personal between us "special friends" . My first thought, I don't fucking think so, Cusano

It's cool that people still get such a buzz from his old work though, I used to feel like that. He sort of killed it for me with his insulting accusations toward me before I left.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:07 pm

Vdog wrote:The reality is that Cusano thinks you are a piece of garbage, a worthless maggot who he wishes he could get rid of permanently. He doesn't want to know what anyone thinks, wishes or wants. He doesn't care if you wish him well, the sentiment is NOT reciprocated in any way. Live, die or go jump off a bridge........it won't touch him in any way.

Don't be offended by what I say, he thinks the same way about all of us. Why am I here then ? I'm here for when he makes the news again. Might not be this week, but it's in the mail. I'm just watching & waiting for the entertainment to begin. I am honestly not overly concerned with any "comeback". I had a brief moment of excitement about that kind of stuff when I was on his forum, but I knew It was never going to happen. Even conversations about his "pristine" demo's and rare things, my musical tastes have moved on since the 80's. His music is dated, his guitar playing has been bettered many times over since he was considered a hot player. His time has passed, he wasted most of it. He's nothing more than a sad curiosity to me.

GR, save your honest emotions for people who deserve it. This man is a disgrace to his fans, his peers & his family.

Damn, can I repost this as a PinkWiz post? Took the words right outta my mouth! Here, I'll say it again...

"save your honest emotions for people who deserve it. This man is a disgrace to his fans, his peers & his family"

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:09 am

vinnie kills off all his fans loyalty and respect eventually. He has to enjoy it, its the only reason I can find. I have never known someone to hate fans so much. And truth be it he has always had some very kind fair and somewhat smart fans. The kind of fans who are drawn to vv are the ones who know talent and love the underdog and usually they are pretty cool people. What I can not understand is why he loves to destroy this.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:05 am

doublev2 wrote:vinnie kills off all his fans loyalty and respect eventually. He has to enjoy it, its the only reason I can find. I have never known someone to hate fans so much. And truth be it he has always had some very kind fair and somewhat smart fans. The kind of fans who are drawn to vv are the ones who know talent and love the underdog and usually they are pretty cool people. What I can not understand is why he loves to destroy this.

because deep down he hates himself... so it's easy to hate the ones who "love" him.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:09 am

i agree but its got to be more than hating himself. To actually not see that fighting with his own fans is a crazy thing to do.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:11 am

PW,

One for Uncle Kev,

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:30 pm

doublev2 wrote:The kind of fans who are drawn to vv are the ones who know talent and love the underdog and usually they are pretty cool people. What I can not understand is why he loves to destroy this.

Very true. I think that Vinnie's fans look deeper than the surface, because not all KISS fans are so familiar with Vinnie.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:08 pm

doublev2 wrote:i agree but its got to be more than hating himself. To actually not see that fighting with his own fans is a crazy thing to do.

I'm just as baffled as you.... guess that's what happens when you try to make sense of mental illness.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:02 pm

i also think that what you and i would consider support he takes as hate. Like asking or talking about a band member eg Bobby Rock. He would see that as hate because we are not talking about Vinnie.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:43 am

Vinnie Vincent lives in his own Personal Geocentric Modelled Universe. He believes that he is an island. The Ptolemaic system, the superseded theory that he alone, Vinnie Vincent is the center of the universe & that everything & everyone revolve around his existence. You may think you are numero uno, but remember, One is the loneliest number.

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doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:41 am

thats a good song I have not heard since it came out. Kiss were doing the glam thing before most people in 1985.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:45 am

Eric Carr has Simmons Drum pads on this one.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:08 am

Yer very cool song. The image is questionable. KISS do glam good in all black. That fluorescent stuff don't work for them. Then image is very much in the vein of VVI first incarnation. Asylum was released September 1984 & VVI 86.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:14 am

ooh, Danni I think Asylum is '85 but i could be wrong. I wonder if VV got the idea from Kiss?

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:25 am

Asylum was certified Gold by the RIAA on November 13, 1985...Probably 85. The image is the chicken & egg situation. Maybe VV was already working on it & KISS did another 'Revenge' type, 'Oh that a good idea' & ripped it off. Don't know how much input Gene & Paul would have had in regards to their wardrobe by then.

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:30 pm

poserboy71 wrote:PW,

One for Uncle Kev,

That Charvel will have both Bickley and I popping a boner!
Thanks for sharing R.E.S!

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:49 am

I think it's safe to say that KISS were chasing the trends during the 80's, as soon as the make-up came off. Both in their fashion choices and style of music. I think DYNASTY was the first album where KISS abandoned their signature sound and started mimicking whatever was popular. (Don't take this in any way as me saying I didn't/don't like KISS at this times...just they weren't marching to their own drummer anymore.)

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:03 pm

They weren't! Anton Fig did Dynasty!!!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:09 pm

shramiac wrote:They weren't! Anton Fig did Dynasty!!!

and Unmasked.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:34 pm

Seems like all the pop metal bands went glam and colorful in '85/86, so it's hard to say who did it first...

VV Invasion-debut
KISS-Asylum
WASP-Inside The Electric Circus
Motley Crue-Theatre Of Pain
Twisted Sister-Come Out & Play

I always equate the Asylum image to the non-makeup era what Dynasty/Unmasked was to the makeup era image. I could also see Paul watching what Vinnie did before he released his debut and trying to beat him to the punch.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:53 pm

poserboy71 wrote:
shramiac wrote:They weren't! Anton Fig did Dynasty!!!
and Unmasked.

I know that! Don't torpedo (me) girl!!!!!!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:57 pm

Poison was '86 too and Dokken under lock and key was glam and a year before VVI.

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:26 pm

Vdog wrote:I remember Cusano saying we should put photo's of ourselves on the forum, you know......to make it more personal between us "special friends" . My first thought, I don't fucking think so, Cusano

It's cool that people still get such a buzz from his old work though, I used to feel like that. He sort of killed it for me with his insulting accusations toward me before I left.

...And here is a picture of my pussy

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:03 pm

Fill in the blanks (fun with words)

Can't a celebrity wax his _____ anymore without his privacy being invaded? He just wants to shine his_____in peace.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:55 pm

Kma , no idea what you are talking about.

Vdog · Post by **Vdog** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:31 pm

I presume he's trying to insult me by calling me a pussy ? Most of his recent posts have been slightly combative and snide in nature. If it's an attempt at humor, that's best left to the funny imo.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:55 pm

yeah, i am not too keen on the tone but I don't get what KMA (she) is saying.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:02 am

I think KMA is playing on the alleged sexual connotations over at DV rather than having a go at anyone here!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:50 am

ok, thanks for clearing it up. I really didn't understand.

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:26 am

Back to topic:

I think KISS saw all the hair-metal bands (glam) gaining momentum, getting signed, starting to have hits and jumped on that bandwagon. Just as they had when a few years earlier with the LIU look...which was basically emulating bands like Quiet Riot.

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:19 pm

Vdog wrote:I presume he's trying to insult me by calling me a pussy ? Most of his recent posts have been slightly combative and snide in nature. If it's an attempt at humor, that's best left to the funny imo.

That was an insulting response to my humorous word play upon the synonym of cats/genitalia. It wouldn't work if I used the word play of cock because I neither have a rooster nor a penis.

The joke was on me. I am a cat person. I've made these kind of jokes before. Really...it's meant to be cute...not snide or mean.

I don't know....the way you treat me kind of validates what Vinnie says about this forum. Why so hateful? I never killed anyone's dog. I was making a JOKE. Ha ha.

You just attacked me. Calling me snide and combative. Boy, somebody has a major issue. I am combative, and I've taken the insults here? Somebody attached and excerpt from the psychopath's bible to one of my posts. Now that's trolling.

I actually recommended this forum to others. The members show no gratitude for good deeds. I am not doing that again if I get treated like this. I am not the forum punching bag. You must think I'm a fool. You could have an NT playing for your team...but I scratched your backs and you spit in my face. I have better ways to spend my time. I've got a five year trend analysis to create on Excel. It's better than getting hated on over a joke.

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:30 pm

I'm not sure most of us understood that post KMA.

Vdog doesn't know you well enough to know you're a lady.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:35 pm

Kma, lots of people from different countries here so not everyone is going to understand what you were saying. I didnt know if you were joking or attack people in this forum. Don't get so worked up about it. Let's all be friends. good luck finding a forum that is as considerate as this one too.