• Will Vinnie ever return for his Fans?

Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:18 pm**

Genebaby wrote:It's ok Dino, see the smiley at the end?

RL, I am a bit confused at your post, I'm not sure how it pertains to mine. I was explaining that Vinnie has come out of the woodwork and created his own dramas whereas prior to that it was quiet. I don't really get the tangent you are going off on about the Star magazines, gossip etc.

Prior to that also you do not seem to have existed as a Vinnie Vincent fan. There is no pulling out of the welcome mat, just please tell us about yourself. Who are you to appear out of nowhere and have such blind faith in Vinnie.

We had blind faith at the DoubleV forum when Vinnie had it censored and we were literally wondering what the heck we could talk about and look where that ended up?

Angel is a reference to another lady who came out of nowhere to proclaim devotion and understanding for Vinnie. I am also wondering who she is as well.

Everyone knows who I am and the same for a lot of people here. Some are anonymous too, which is fine as they are not trying to tell us that we are doing things wrong here. If you would like to ask big things of people here please have the decency to introduce yourself so that we may know who is addressing us.

Hiding behind "riverlioness" is not going to cut it, I don't listen to people who don't exist so please tell us who is addressing us.

You can choose to feign ignorance for my request, or pretend that it's "too much" to ask but really it is not. It is common courtesy.

I'll tell you why I believe Vinnie Vincent. I have seen him in interviews, and I have the intuition to know he's gentle, and soft spoken. The evidence is in his voice, in his body language, and in his writing. He talks about his family with love...

I read Angel's posts. What the hell is wrong with understanding? The world needs more sweethearts. You lost out when she left to the double v forum. She was a ray of sunshine in a dark cloud. Why would you wonder anything about her ? She was warm and friendly. Didn't you see the good in her? She was just trying to share her interests in music with people over the internet. That's what fans do.

This isn't the first time I've defended gentle natured people...and I'm fucking proud of it. They have a lot to teach others about life. There isn't too little pain in the world, there is too much.

It is not a common courtesy to give one's name on a forum. It's a choice. I'm not hiding anything. Jesternjeff has already made inappropriate sexual remarks to me, and I don't want him knowing my name. If you really think about it...it makes sense.

Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:10 pm**

Fair call Lioness...Jeff has made some rude remarks that should probably be addressed but that doesn't justify tagging him a serial killer...??

Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:16 pm**

I cannot comment on who, where, why ,or what I know , BUT I CAN SAY that I have lost a female friend that was very nice because of some people at this forum.
The trust issues have stopped both Vinnie forums in their tracks.

I have seen the same interviews ,yet, I have seen an unwillingness to show proof to support any claims. I understand that he can't discuss his recent situation so let's start about the hurt people of this forum and what they have dealt with for many years. I would think that Vinnie wants to reach out to hurt people
I have witnessed a soft spoken ,self-proclaimed Christian, support the lunacy of a moderator named Spyder.

Who do we believe anymore???
Let Freedom Rock !!!
Let Vinnie once and for all do the right thing (if only for himself)---He has always had the power to diffuse this and have an incredible support system.
My script has flipped in recent months because his actions. I am very pissed that my hero has resorted to such pettiness. I would love to have a mutual desire for respect and acceptance.

I promise to be a bigger mirror in this given situation. Whatever is aimed at me, I will give off a bigger reflection.
If Vinnie continues the hate then he should expect it 100 fold in return. If he sends good vibrations, I will stand beside him and defend him once again.
I have spent years trying to get through, and admittingly, I am exhausted . Vinnie will have to start this round off.

There is no worse enemy than someone who loves you...

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:15 am**

Riverlioness wrote: I'll tell you why I believe Vinnie Vincent. I have seen him in interviews, and I have the intuition to know he's gentle, and soft spoken. The evidence is in his voice, in his body language, and in his writing. He talks about his family with love...

I read Angel's posts. What the hell is wrong with understanding? The world needs more sweethearts. You lost out when she left to the double v forum. She was a ray of sunshine in a dark cloud. Why would you wonder anything about her ? She was warm and friendly. Didn't you see the good in her? She was just trying to share her interests in music with people over the internet. That's what fans do.

This isn't the first time I've defended gentle natured people...and I'm fucking proud of it. They have a lot to teach others about life. There isn't too little pain in the world, there is too much.

It is not a common courtesy to give one's name on a forum. It's a choice. I'm not hiding anything. Jesternjeff has already made inappropriate sexual remarks to me, and I don't want him knowing my name. If you really think about it...it makes sense.

You believe him because of 15 plus year old interviews where hes talking about his music or bands ? That seems quite naive.
Ok lets look at it this way, a police report and statement by his wife was filed so if your saying its not true then your saying his wife is a liar, and filed a false police report and the police and court conspired against him and falsified evidence.
You know I watched a kind soft spoken and gentle man sit and look right at the camera while addressing the entire nation of the united states and lie.
And why was that lie so convincing? Because he truly believed he did nothing wrong, just because you believe you did nothing wrong does not mean it didn't happen it just means your moral compass is all screwed up.

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:01 am**

soft spoken people can sometimes be the bat shit craziest... don't be so naive.

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:42 am**

Brooklyn_Born wrote:Fair call Lioness...Jeff has made some rude remarks that should probably be addressed but that doesn't justify tagging him a serial killer...??

By the many reactions, it seems delusional celebrity stalkers are a sensitive issue around here. I mistakenly assumed most of this was emotional reasoning, and it's far worse..I can't reason with this. You might not understand, but I do.

After the administrator spoke with me, I should've left. There is nothing I can do here. There is no reason to continue engaging in this madness.

My prayers go with Vinnie and his family.

Goodbye.

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:53 am**

Ah yeah????????????? No worries RL!!! You're always welcome back!

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:53 am**

I've seen Riverlioness posts, read them a couple of times... and I still have no idea what her point was/is.

The best I can gather (no offense to anybody) is that she says that Vinnie is a good guy that deserves privacy... and that's it. She was told several times (in several different ways) why that's not true, but she just replied "Well maybe you're right but (blank) he's still a good guy and deserves some privacy only because he's a good guy and deserves some privacy..." and repeat ad infinitum.

Am I right or did I missed something?

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:00 pm**

Yeah that's about it!

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:14 pm**

Riverlioness,
Thank you for your visit. Your 1st post I felt was constructive but everything that followed was vague and lacked any facts to support your statements. I was hopeful about building a bridge but the foundation that you laid down assembled a bridge to no where.

Your welcome here anytime that you feel like visiting but we back up our statements here with illustrated facts not deductions of reasoning.

Kev

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:17 pm**

So much for having a polite discussion with someone from Doublev.

A friendly debate would have been great yet we get her opinions backed by nothing.

She was easily frustrated because we dealt with her properly and led her back to the lion's den.
I hope she, or someone else from over there can return here and provide proof for their stupid allegations.

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:21 pm**

poserboy71 wrote:So much for having a polite discussion with someone from Doublev.

A friendly debate would have been great yet we get her opinions backed by nothing.

She was easily frustrated because we dealt with her properly and led her back to the lion's den.
I hope she, or someone else from over there can return here and provide proof for their stupid allegations.

WORD - Richard

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:28 pm**

Slayer wrote:
poserboy71 wrote:So much for having a polite discussion with someone from Doublev.

A friendly debate would have been great yet we get her opinions backed by nothing.

She was easily frustrated because we dealt with her properly and led her back to the lion's den.
I hope she, or someone else from over there can return here and provide proof for their stupid allegations.
WORD - Richard

Word to the Word - KEV

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:49 am**

I had no belief that any factual argument we presented would sway her opinion in the least. I think her goal was to get any of us to budge from our stance which, if given a cogent argument, I think (some of us) would consider. I'm not trying to be mean to her, but "My intuition tells me he is a nice guy, I believe everything he posts and the VVFF needs to stop questioning him." is not an argument...that's a belief.

I will sum up our belief here:
• Vinnie Vincent was a great guitarist
• Vinnie Vincent was a great songwriter
• Vinnie Vincent has swindled and stolen from both his colleagues and his fans (fact)
• Vinnie Vincent is now a bankrupt recluse trying to bilk obscene amounts of money from his remaining fans for returns that are all suspect
* The VVFF are avid fans of the MUSIC Vinnie Vincent was involved in creating in the 70s, 80s & 90s
* The VVFF will not allow the transgressions against it's members to be forgotten without apology and re-compensation
* The VVFF will not blindly follow a man known to have so many suspect and criminal acts in his past by compensating him through purchase of his over-priced merchandise, over-priced membership fees and unscrupulous terms & conditions.

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:38 am**

i wish someone would show up from vinnie's cult and explain what the 'hate' points are. Hate is another word for truth to them, i think, unless they explain what we are saying that is hateful. His stuff is overpriced, whats hateful about that. he kicked us all off his board for something no other board would boot someone for.. mostly just asking or questioning something. He lied to his own board fans about 'all charges being dropped' and he says he was falsely accused of beating his wife but doesn't explain who the culprit is.

I love vinnie and all he needs to do is stop fighting us and making sense. most of us are not going to put up with bs. But deep down we just want it to stop and be some what friends.

I don't get these people who come here with vague cultish points and ways. Vinnie wants to control his fans and that what he is doing very well at the dv board. They all know they can not ask simple questions that maybe slightly challenging, they all know they can not disagree in opinions, they all know they can not even slightly correct him if he gets a year slightly wrong etc. He basically bullies his fans. They will say they are just nice people who love vinnie but I bet you every single one is slightly worried they will say the wrong thing and get the boot.

if you don't do exactly what he wants you are a hater. Too bad because we all love him. The truth is not hate.

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:39 am**

i would love someone from their to actually come here and prove me wrong and talk sense not cult talk.

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:06 am**

NO! DON'T DO THAT! If you do, this place will be full of barely coherent full of strange curse words, "offenses", and written in all caps lock!

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:26 am**

yeah, but if someone with some brains came here i would be cool. as yet no one has said anything other than blind love. which i suppose has its place.

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:52 pm**

It would be great for both forums to have some common ground and share some civil communication on a regular basis. I mean, at the end of the day we are all people who share a passion for Vinnie & his music... How hard is it to get along?!

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:05 pm**

Any vv fan is welcome here as long as they are somewhat civil.

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:00 pm**

I just can't see it happening though none of the members from Vins forum see eye2eye with members from VVff..

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:53 am**

They don't see eye to eye because they are told to be blind OR ELSE !!!

You would be surprised how many of them will discuss things in private.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:57 am**

yeah, tow the line of else.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:53 am**

The Line of Else.

Sounds exotic.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:41 am**

The Line Of Elsie (Warmachine !!!)

Posted: **Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:43 am**

Posted: **Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:45 pm**

Wow Warmachine, that pic of Vixen looks just like the VV Invasion circa '86... clockwise from top left = Bobby, Dana, Vinnie and Mark!

Posted: **Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:37 pm**

PinkWiz wrote:Wow Warmachine, that pic of Vixen looks just like the VV Invasion circa '86... clockwise from top left = Bobby, Dana, Vinnie and Mark!

It does too.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:24 am**

It's so draining being a Vinnie Vincent fan.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:25 am**

So so draining being a Vinnie Vincent fan.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:25 am**

Oh, so, so draining being a Vinnie Vincent fan.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:29 am**

I've smelled Vinnie's poop.I think he needs some MEAT in his diet !!!

I wonder if he fixed that septic problem yet ???

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:43 am**

There's a lotta shit back up there in those VV bowel. Gonna need a lot more than that to clean this shit fight up.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:40 am**

Stop shooting the shit guys.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:10 pm**

Yeah, this thread is getting crappy.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:15 pm**

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