Vinnie, pay me the expenses I occured giving you the vv domain for free including the going sale rate plus the shipping of the items I bought for you and then we can call it even.

Fair enough!

GOOD DEAL

doublev wrote:Vinnie, pay me the expenses I occured giving you the vv domain for free including the going sale rate plus the shipping of the items I bought for you and then we can call it even.

Sue him.

In fact, everyone that got jipped out of their box sets (and whatever else Vinnie took them for) should get together and take him to court.

Hearing about credit card fraud and many of the other allegations here I would think that a healthy suit could be filed.

Oh , please squeeze blood from stones as well. Catch that leprechaun and get his gold...

Dino's good nature backfired . He can't sue Vinnie for accepting a GIFT and then expect him to pay for it.


Come on already guys. We are better than this. This kind of shit is just asinine.

He broke the agreement however but ricks correct and I don't sue people as well as I don't want the stinking domain anyway.

poserboy71 wrote:Oh , please squeeze blood from stones as well. Catch that leprechaun and get his gold...

Dino's good nature backfired . He can't sue Vinnie for accepting a GIFT and then expect him to pay for it.

Come on already guys. We are better than this. This kind of shit is just asinine.

I think you are the one that is asinine and needs to grow up.

All I was suggesting is that the people that feel that they got ripped off - I'm talking about the box sets here as well as other accusations of credit card fraud and other such things - then they have a right to enter into a lawsuit if they feel they were taken by Mr. Vincent.

What I am suggesting isn't an outrageous thing.
It's something that is done all the time (just ask Vinnie) when people feel they were taken.
From all the bitching done on this site and other sites
http://www.bravewords.com/braveboard/vi ... 4&start=25
http://www.vvforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=970
about it (along with scanned letters and other documents being put forth as evidence) it's a completely legitimate question.

Vinnie has so far broken two conditions I know of for the deal to be given the domain and the board, but that's no real surprise.

doublev wrote:Vinnie, pay me the expenses I occurred giving you the vv domain for free including the going sale rate plus the shipping of the items I bought for you and then we can call it even.

In fact, that's all Mr. doublev is really doing by asking the above.
He's just asking for fair compensation.

This is not something that is evil or wicked.
It's pretty standard operating procedure for those that feel they were unjustly taken advantage of.

The only think I ever ordered from Mr. Vincent was the Euphoria EP from back in the day and I got that pronto.
I don't have a beef with the guy but it would seem many others do.

If your fear / worry is that such a suit would really hurt Mr. Vincent financially I doubt that very much.
Of course that depends on how many people were taken, have evidence of such a thing, and are willing to band together for legal action.

My guess would be that if victorious they would only be able to recoup their loss for said box set (and seeing that much time has gone by I'm not even sure of that) - I have no idea what other claims there might be hanging around out there.

strangeways wrote:

poserboy71 wrote:Oh , please squeeze blood from stones as well. Catch that leprechaun and get his gold...

Dino's good nature backfired . He can't sue Vinnie for accepting a GIFT and then expect him to pay for it.

Come on already guys. We are better than this. This kind of shit is just asinine.

I think you are the one that is asinine and needs to grow up.

All I was suggesting is that the people that feel that they got ripped off - I'm talking about the box sets here as well as other accusations of credit card fraud and other such things - then they have a right to enter into a lawsuit if they feel they were taken by Mr. Vincent.

What I am suggesting isn't an outrageous thing.
It's something that is done all the time (just ask Vinnie) when people feel they were taken.
From all the bitching done on this site and other sites
http://www.bravewords.com/braveboard/vi ... 4&start=25
http://www.vvforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=970
about it (along with scanned letters and other documents being put forth as evidence) it's a completely legitimate question.

Hi there Strangeways,

Be careful of who you choose to tangle with. xoxo SLURP

Your points are moot. People engaging in a lawsuit together against Vinnie OVER A DECADE after the incident occurred wouldn't be possible . It wouldn't make it to the court room floor.

As far as what happened to Dino and his old forum, A contract does NOT exist , THEREFORE, nothing is legally binding as Dino GIFTED the DoubleV Forum to Vinnie. Dino will even agree that this thread is just sour grapes.

I hurt for Dino because I know he is a huge Vinnie Vincent fan. He will also agree that his temper has ruined a chance at a relationship with Vinnie.

"...it's a completely legitimate question." --- You made a statement. You didn't ask a question.

You should educate yourself on the relationships that the elders of this forum have before you exercise your opinions. READ !!!
I'm glad that I could be of service and hand your ass back to you.

Now let's keep things friendly and upbeat because I really would enjoy this forum more if people would remain friends and fans.

Rick, Dino did place conditions on the hand over, which have been broken on two points so far. This was agreed to verbally, not sure if Dino has it recorded.

I understand that it was verbal and I do feel bad for Dino because he hurts from this ,BUT ,it is not legally binding because there is no written contract.

Rick, Rick, Rick, verbal contracts are legally binding, just harder to enforce if one side wants to be a slime and wriggle out of it.

This is why they are not a great idea unless you record the the conversation or have witlessness who will stand up in court for you.

Therefore Dino has every right to ask for the things he gave back as his requirements were not fulfilled. Whether he can or will enforce them is up to him.

He's letting of some steam for sure.

Genebaby wrote:... verbal contracts are legally binding, just harder to enforce ...

Exactly. No proof exists to the contrary THEREFORE Dino and everyone has to let this go because there is absolutely nothing that can be done .

Dannii, Why the anger ??? People were booted from a forum. We are all still friends here. You offered him genuine help and were turned down without explanation.

You still have your wonderful family and friends. Focus love towards that . The hate takes away from that.

I'm hurt as well but I refuse to go on a witch hunt.

Calm down brother. This situation will work itself out. Good or bad, just let it run it's course on it's own.

poserboy71 wrote:Dannii, Why the anger ??? People were booted from a forum. We are all still friends here. You offered him genuine help and were turned down without explanation.

You still have your wonderful family and friends. Focus love towards that . The hate takes away from that.

I'm hurt as well but I refuse to go on a witch hunt.

Calm down brother. This situation will work itself out. Good or bad, just let it run it's course on it's own.

Not angry with you Rick. No really angry at all. Just disappointed. I quite proud that you tried to turn the tide, it just isn't going to happen. There comes a time in all relationships were you got to take the gloves off & get your hands dirty. It's about keeping respect for yourself. I've never been one for kicking a dog when it down, but I'm also all about one taking responsibility for their actions. VV does not do this. Then I am labelled as part of a 'HATE GROUP'...For one, not one here is part of a hate group. Two, people have the right to get what is owed to them. Mate, I did my best, I layed by weapons down. I went into his house naked, as myself. My real name, with respect & offering help. I wrote that introduction on this forum withholding any REAL questions that I really wanted to ask, so as not to upset that big fucken 59 yo burnout sooki baby.
He basically spat in my face. I really don't care about that as an insult from scum like VV holds not water. It has no substance. But reading Kevin's post about 'taking a bullet' has been echoing in my head. People should fight for what is theirs. I follow Ron Paul (an American medical doctor and Republican U.S. Congressman for the 14th congressional district of Texas) and he is a true Campaigner for Liberty. That's what i believe in. With Liberty comes responsibility. Liberty invokes the ideals that no man has the right to take another persons belongings. VV has done that. VV should give it back. If he doesn't want to give it back, he should be forced by the laws that governing everyone to give it back. That means the guitars, the website, the monies for the boxsets. And he should also pay the interest accumulated for the term (number of years) he has held on to that money. That all...No anger. Just Justice.

poserboy71 wrote:I understand that it was verbal and I do feel bad for Dino because he hurts from this ,BUT ,it is not legally binding because there is no written contract.

Actually, here in Tennessee there are laws for that. We have "gentleman's agreement" law that is a valid contract. A hand shake is also considered a binding contract here too. Dino, I suggest you call a local Nashville attorney and see exactly where you stand.

metatron wrote:Make him run for the hills.

No!!! Don't do that....if he runs over the hill he's gonna be in my neighborhood!

poserboy71 wrote:

strangeways wrote:

poserboy71 wrote:Oh , please squeeze blood from stones as well. Catch that leprechaun and get his gold...

Dino's good nature backfired . He can't sue Vinnie for accepting a GIFT and then expect him to pay for it.

Come on already guys. We are better than this. This kind of shit is just asinine.

I think you are the one that is asinine and needs to grow up.

All I was suggesting is that the people that feel that they got ripped off - I'm talking about the box sets here as well as other accusations of credit card fraud and other such things - then they have a right to enter into a lawsuit if they feel they were taken by Mr. Vincent.

What I am suggesting isn't an outrageous thing.
It's something that is done all the time (just ask Vinnie) when people feel they were taken.
From all the bitching done on this site and other sites
http://www.bravewords.com/braveboard/vi ... 4&start=25
http://www.vvforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=970
about it (along with scanned letters and other documents being put forth as evidence) it's a completely legitimate question.

Hi there Strangeways,

Be careful of who you choose to tangle with. xoxo SLURP

Your points are moot. People engaging in a lawsuit together against Vinnie OVER A DECADE after the incident occurred wouldn't be possible . It wouldn't make it to the court room floor.

As far as what happened to Dino and his old forum, A contract does NOT exist , THEREFORE, nothing is legally binding as Dino GIFTED the DoubleV Forum to Vinnie. Dino will even agree that this thread is just sour grapes.

I hurt for Dino because I know he is a huge Vinnie Vincent fan. He will also agree that his temper has ruined a chance at a relationship with Vinnie.

"...it's a completely legitimate question." --- You made a statement. You didn't ask a question.

You should educate yourself on the relationships that the elders of this forum have before you exercise your opinions. READ !!!
I'm glad that I could be of service and hand your ass back to you.

Now let's keep things friendly and upbeat because I really would enjoy this forum more if people would remain friends and fans.

Don't bother lecturing me.
All I did was suggest that if someone is upset about being ripped off in some way that they are free to pursue it legally.
I brought up the fact that the box set issue was over a decade old and might not be actionable.
If you bothered to read some of the post that I linked to you would see that there seem to be many a person that has a beef with Mr. Vincent. I even stated that I had no beef with him but that for the people that do there are ways to deal with it. I advise you to grow up and get a grip. I, and many others, don't want a 'relationship' with Vinnie Vincent outside of getting new audio / video and seeing whatever shows he might play in the future.
I'm glad others popped up here to school you a bit on the ways of the world.
I appreciate them doing so.
Many thanks.
If you want things to remain friendly and upbeat then you should think twice about telling people that you have done such things like 'handed their asses back to them.'
For things to remain 'friendly and upbeat' I would also suggest that some people might want to refrain from referring to peoples posts as asinine.
This is especially true when the post is a pretty common suggestion.

Right on Strangeways!