All humans make mistakes. They slip. They fall. They get caught up and go down a wrong path sometimes.

I try not to judge a person by the mistakes they make, but by the way they conduct themselves after.

Do they take ownership?

Do they apologize?

Do they make amends?

I do not judge Vinnie for:
- not delivering the box set
- in a regrettable moment of weakness, striking his wife
- wanting people to be positive on HIS forum

I call him "less than a man" and "piece of shit" for:
- not admitting he promised more than he could deliver, apologizing and returning my money/giving something else
- lying about beating her up and the charges being dropped, publicly apologizing to his wife and volunteering to perform community service at a local battered women's shelter
- being up front about his forum/who runs it, apologize for how he has treated his fans because of this and joins in an open and honest discussion with us instead of hiding behind lies/BS

Great post. This is how I feel and it applies to a lot of things. It's not that you made the mistake, it's what you do about it. It's called being a man about it.

I think this forum would see a HUGE turnaround towards the positive if Vinnie would just be a man.

It would take him less than an hour. Think about that. One honest, conciliatory gesture would take him less than 1 hour of his life and all the healing and positivity would flow like a river.

erg2 I don't know who you are but you've got you're head screwed on straight & you have just voiced the feeling of a lot of us here... I think you are going to fit in well...

Sheesh! I don't wanna know who erg1 is!!! He'd makes us all look like retreads!!!

Don't get too excited, I still intend to be an immature asshole as much as society will allow.