I think a ' KISS - UNPLUGGED 2 " is order, and to have Vinnie come out and join them for
" A MILLION TO ONE & LICK IT UP." ( I picked these 2 cuz I think they
would sound best acoustically. If they could do a version of " DANGER " that
would be strange but, somehow good Im sure ! Here is my set list, before you judge on
the sappiness of some song choices, I picked them w/ acoustics in mind !!!

-KISS UNPLUGGED 2 ( set list ) Paul / Gene / Tommy / Eric
Love Theme From Kiss
Two Timer
Love Her All I can
All The Way
Mister Speed
Charisma
Is That You

-Vinnie brought in
Danger
A million To One
Lick It up
- Vinnie exits

Crazy Nights w/ Choir
I Just Wanna
Im An Animal
Say Yeah

-Japanese version of the c.d. w/ 2 extra songs of course !
Tears Are Falling & Modern Day Delila

THis would be amazing - but this dreams comes not true...Not for Gene and not for Paul, never ever...
Wolfi

I'm sure if they were willing to bring in Vinnie, then Bruce, Peter and Ace would be there.

Would love to hear A Million To One acoustic though.

I love the bootleg version of the Unplugged session with all the in-between banter, goofing off and real vocals. It's so much more fun to listen to than that sterilized official version they put out.

I also disagree with the G&P philosophy that the acoustic versions have to be as faithful as possible to the original electric versions. I don't for a minute believe Paul's assertion that "all" of their songs start out on the acoustic guitar during the writing process. I think there are songs that just can't/won't work acoustically...at least without adjusting the musical composition.

On the original Unplugged, I just don't think RnRAN sounds "right" acoustic using the electric arrangement like they did.

A song I would love to hear an acoustic version with a choir and string accompaniment: Reason To Live

There would be nothing special about having Bruce, Ace & Peter on a second Unplugged album. Having a Vinnie appearance would be AWESOME especially w/ Tommy & Eric as there would be less tension knowing Bruce doesn't really like Vinnie. Either do Gene & Paul but, they would get past it ...... $$$$$$$$$$$$. lol

Reason To Live .... yeah, I missed that one, good choice perhaps on Unplugged 3 ? lol

Gene and Paul only pander to the fair weather fans. Not enough interest in Vinnie nowadays to warrant recording a whole new Unplugged just for his appearance... or for that matter with Tommy and Eric.

This is just a topic whether it comes true or not is hypothetical !

Pink Wiz tell us something we don't already know ! What songs would you like to see/hear on this unplugged 2 ???

Ya know, I'm Pretty Shot.

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On KISS- UNPLUGGED 2 ? What are you on dope ???

jesternjeff wrote:On KISS- UNPLUGGED 2 ? What are you on dope ???

impolite

jesternjeff wrote:On KISS- UNPLUGGED 2 ? What are you on dope ???

you said it was "hypothetical"... deal with it.

and yes, i love dope.

I said hypothetical NOT hydroponical ! lol Erg2, put a cork in it no one asked you !!! I love dope too !!!

jesternjeff wrote:I love dope too !!!

never would've guessed...

Stoner rock is my specialty !
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Jeff, this was starting out so well, please play nice.

It's hypothetical so clearly people can wish for what they want? Strange or not.

Stick to the topic, it's KISS not vinnie vincent solo stuff ! THE SUBJECT IS KISS !!! Im trying to be nice. Its fine to be hypothetical but, keep it hypothetical to the topic KISS, otherwise this would be under vv general !!!

Ah, I see what you mean. With Vinnie being in Kiss I didn't notice.

Still, there are nicer ways to word it, so you come across better.

Instead of wasting your time & energy on me why dont you explain to others to stay on the subject, this is why we have them is it not ? A VV solo song on a KISS album like what the fuck ... who doesnt get the picture here. Its erg 2 who started it by saying something that didnt need to be said !!!

Jeff, just wondering... how old are you? I was thinking maybe mid-30's to 40's since you're a Vinnie/KISS fan, but your responses make you seem much younger... like maybe a teenager? Just wondering...

What is it about my response ( please be specific ) that would lead you to believe Im a teenager ?

When someone subject is KISS MEETS ARCHIE COMIC should I go into Wolverine issue 468 fights the Hulk, give your head a shake !!!!

Jeff, we get it but when it comes to written text you come off rather caustic.

Try to relax!

Oh o.k. ... I get it Genebaby " Im pretty shot," yeah good song choice for a KiSS UNPLUGGED 2 thanks Pinkwiz. Sorry if I offended anyone by asking if you are on the dope , so rude of me ... my bad !!! While were going the wrong way in this thread we should just put some Peter Criss songs off of Out Of Control on KISS - UNPLUGGED 2, Bruce could do a Whit Lion song !

jesternjeff wrote:What is it about my response ( please be specific ) that would lead you to believe Im a teenager ?

You just answered this with your last few responses...

It's called being sarcastic, do I have to wait till your next post to show you or are you old enough to have figured out that your post was the problem here ? Cuz I can wait till your next post and go to left field w/ it, if you would like ... wanna play adolescent ( being nice here Genebaby ) ? Try me !!!

JJ suddenly comes back. HMMMMmmmmmmm

PinkWiz wrote:I'm sure if they were willing to bring in Vinnie, then Bruce, Peter and Ace would be there.

Would love to hear A Million To One acoustic though.

Luv the new avatar BRO

jesternjeff wrote:It's called being sarcastic, do I have to wait till your next post to show you or are you old enough to have figured out that your post was the problem here ? Cuz I can wait till your next post and go to left field w/ it, if you would like ... wanna play adolescent ( being nice here Genebaby ) ? Try me !!!

Nothin worse than someone who can dish it out but can't take it...

Slayer wrote:

PinkWiz wrote:I'm sure if they were willing to bring in Vinnie, then Bruce, Peter and Ace would be there.

Would love to hear A Million To One acoustic though.

Luv the new avatar BRO

Thanx... didn't realize Cusano was such a comic book fan!

jesternjeff wrote:I think a ' KISS - UNPLUGGED 2 " is order, and to have Vinnie come out and join them for
" A MILLION TO ONE & LICK IT UP." ( I picked these 2 cuz I think they
would sound best acoustically. If they could do a version of " DANGER " that
would be strange but, somehow good Im sure ! Here is my set list, before you judge on
the sappiness of some song choices, I picked them w/ acoustics in mind !!!

-KISS UNPLUGGED 2 ( set list ) Paul / Gene / Tommy / Eric
Love Theme From Kiss
Two Timer
Love Her All I can
All The Way
Mister Speed
Charisma
Is That You

-Vinnie brought in
Danger
A million To One
Lick It up
- Vinnie exits

Crazy Nights w/ Choir
I Just Wanna
Im An Animal
Say Yeah

-Japanese version of the c.d. w/ 2 extra songs of course !
Tears Are Falling & Modern Day Delila

Jeffrey,
I'm COOL with your list but my only concern is that Bob Kulick played on Danger rather than Vinnie Vincent. It would be interesting to hear Vinnie play this song but to the best of what I have read he has never performed this particular song live. Bob Kulick also played on Keep Me Coming from Creature's but in this case Vinnie did perform this song live a few times as well as Rock N Roll Hell that ws played by Robben Ford on COTN.
The following is from Kiss Faq

CREATURES OF THE NIGHT (1982)

Creatures Of The Night - Unknown (pos. Mike Porcaro) on bass; Steve Ferris on lead guitar; Adam Mitchell on guitar
Danger - Bob Kulick on guitar; Jimmy Haslip on bass
Keep Me Comin' - Bob Kulick on guitar
I Still Love You - Eric Carr on bass; Robben Ford on lead guitar
Rock And Roll Hell - Robben Ford on lead guitar; Jimmy Haslip on bass
War Machine - Gene Simmons on rhythm guitar
Note: Other session players on this album may even include Bruce Kulick!

Thanks for sharing and I would pay to see this event for sure!

Kev

Slayer wrote:

jesternjeff wrote:I think a ' KISS - UNPLUGGED 2 " is order, and to have Vinnie come out and join them for
" A MILLION TO ONE & LICK IT UP." ( I picked these 2 cuz I think they
would sound best acoustically. If they could do a version of " DANGER " that
would be strange but, somehow good Im sure ! Here is my set list, before you judge on
the sappiness of some song choices, I picked them w/ acoustics in mind !!!

-KISS UNPLUGGED 2 ( set list ) Paul / Gene / Tommy / Eric
Love Theme From Kiss
Two Timer
Love Her All I can
All The Way
Mister Speed
Charisma
Is That You

-Vinnie brought in
Danger
A million To One
Lick It up
- Vinnie exits

Crazy Nights w/ Choir
I Just Wanna
Im An Animal
Say Yeah

-Japanese version of the c.d. w/ 2 extra songs of course !
Tears Are Falling & Modern Day Delila

Jeffrey,
I'm COOL with your list but my only concern is that Bob Kulick played on Danger rather than Vinnie Vincent. It would be interesting to hear Vinnie play this song but to the best of what I have read he has never performed this particular song live. Bob Kulick also played on Keep Me Coming from Creature's but in this case Vinnie did perform this song live a few times as well as Rock N Roll Hell that ws played by Robben Ford on COTN.
The following is from Kiss Faq

CREATURES OF THE NIGHT (1982)

Creatures Of The Night - Unknown (pos. Mike Porcaro) on bass; Steve Ferris on lead guitar; Adam Mitchell on guitar
Danger - Bob Kulick on guitar; Jimmy Haslip on bass
Keep Me Comin' - Bob Kulick on guitar
I Still Love You - Eric Carr on bass; Robben Ford on lead guitar
Rock And Roll Hell - Robben Ford on lead guitar; Jimmy Haslip on bass
War Machine - Gene Simmons on rhythm guitar
Note: Other session players on this album may even include Bruce Kulick!

Thanks for sharing and I would pay to see this event for sure!

Kev

Your right, Vinnie did not play on Danger. Was just throwing it out there, think it would be a cool rendition for an acoustic piece !!! Not For The innocent would be cool just dont think it would work acousticly !

PinkWiz wrote:

jesternjeff wrote:It's called being sarcastic, do I have to wait till your next post to show you or are you old enough to have figured out that your post was the problem here ? Cuz I can wait till your next post and go to left field w/ it, if you would like ... wanna play adolescent ( being nice here Genebaby ) ? Try me !!!

Nothin worse than someone who can dish it out but can't take it...

If for one second you think adding a V V song to this list is dishing it out, your a boy who only his mother could love ! Stick to the script and you will do fine !!!

poserboy71 wrote:JJ suddenly comes back. HMMMMmmmmmmm

Great to see you peaking in PB, you have had some great post in the last few weeks that I really enjoyed !!! Incidentally, I never was gone !!!!

jesternjeff wrote:

PinkWiz wrote:

jesternjeff wrote:It's called being sarcastic, do I have to wait till your next post to show you or are you old enough to have figured out that your post was the problem here ? Cuz I can wait till your next post and go to left field w/ it, if you would like ... wanna play adolescent ( being nice here Genebaby ) ? Try me !!!

Nothin worse than someone who can dish it out but can't take it...

If for one second you think adding a V V song to this list is dishing it out, your a boy who only his mother could love ! Stick to the script and you will do fine !!!

Apology accepted.

PinkWiz wrote:

jesternjeff wrote:

PinkWiz wrote:

jesternjeff wrote:It's called being sarcastic, do I have to wait till your next post to show you or are you old enough to have figured out that your post was the problem here ? Cuz I can wait till your next post and go to left field w/ it, if you would like ... wanna play adolescent ( being nice here Genebaby ) ? Try me !!!

Nothin worse than someone who can dish it out but can't take it...

If for one second you think adding a V V song to this list is dishing it out, your a boy who only his mother could love ! Stick to the script and you will do fine !!!

Apology accepted.

I dont think you or I did anything wrong, I mean your song choice didnt make sense but, I wasnt upset about it. It was that other guy who said I was doing something wrong that pissed me off ! Truce !

I would like to hear Rock Warriors on Unplugged 2.

Not sure I heard that one, perhaps you ment Rock Soldiers ???

Oh no. I meant Rock Warriors.
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Mr. Mark Leslie Norton!

Not a bad song, I never got into White Lion ! Think Dio's voice would have sounded better then this guy singing !!!

Dio makes EVERTHING sound good!!!! RIP

shramiac wrote:Dio makes EVERTHING sound good!!!! RIP

Hell Ya ! Much agreed, long live Dio !!!

Rumours have been linking vinnie to playing on keep me comin. Not sure if solo or not.

WHITE LION:
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WHITE TIGER:
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My bad .. ment White Tiger, wasnt a big fan of it, cant stand White Lion either ! Dio however = AWESOMENESS !!!

I spent a year in the 80s trying to get my hands on the White Tiger cassette. Imagine my surprise upon listening how I had labored much too hard. That album is ass.
#1- Bad production and mixing. If this band was any good, the album does not showcase it at all.
#2- The singing is SO nasally. And he talks more about how he was/is a male model than he does about music.

As much as I disliked the cassette, I heard some potential in a few songs.(Bad Time Coming, Northern Wind, etc.) It was all just cheaply executed...not raw, just amateur.

I was surprised when I got the remastered CD at how much better the completely remixed/reworked ROCK WARRIORS sounded. I think a decent producer could've made something out of this band.

Yeah I was never much of a fan of White Tiger or the stuff that Mark did with Peter Criss (The Keep). The production did suck but unfortunately White Tiger didn't have the songwriting prowess of VVI. In the late 80's, Vinnie blew anything that Mark, Peter, Ace or even KISS did outta the fukn water IMHO (and probably everyone else's honest opinion here too).

KISS was, for the most part IMO, on auto-pilot during the latter half of the 80s. They weren't invested in making the best possible KISS album or product.

I've haven't heard much of The Keep stuff, but I think it's a great effort by a mediocre group of musicians/songwriters. Which is to say, I think for who was making it, it turned out some pretty listenable stuff. I wouldn't have expected that after hearing the Peter Criss solo albums and the White Tiger album. When you're expecting a glass full of diarrhea but get a glass full of flat soda, you feel pretty good about what's going on.

Ace Frehley...it's so hard to say. His solo stuff has ALWAYS been too scattered and unfocused to be great. I think the first couple of Frehley's Comet albums are Ace trying to create hair metal even though his heart wasn't in it. Some of it is pretty good, but none of it is inspired. Trouble Walking is probably his most focused work since his KISS solo album.

Vinnie Vincent VVI is the only KISS member to have an album that is focused, cohesive and more than just filler surrounding a couple of potential singles. ASG is also equally focused and cohesive sounding, but a little too polished-overdubbed-layered to be as great as VVI...but a far more focused effort than White Tiger, Frehley's Comet or Criss/The Keep.