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What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:57 am
by PinkWiz
I think those designs are actually more streamlined than the space and cat designs but I've heard fans diss them over the years, saying they looked stupid and the chracters were silly. If the fox and ankh came first, then fans would've probably thought the cat whiskers were silly or wondered what the hell that silver explosion was supposed to be... in other words, dissed because they weren't the original designs.

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What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:29 am
by Genebaby
I like them all. Eric's second look was a fantastic fox (pun intended) design, but Peter looked cool and so did Ace.

Vinnie's makeup design is my least favorite. I like it but it seems the most rushed, with the least thought and time behind it, which I guess it was.

Way too hard to keep coming up with new member personas.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:32 am
by poserboy71
I think Vinnie's makeup was PERFECT. It really fit his face and the character. He looked like a dead Egyptian pharaoh. Very spooky and mystical . The eye makeup and sunken checks( shading) really sealed the deal.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:35 am
by PinkWiz
The ankh has always been my favorite, I love the simplicity. The ugliest would have to be:


The Hawk... could've been cool with a slightly different design and lose the ruby lips:
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The first Fox design... waaaay too busy:
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can't forget the first Cat design with the tongue:
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What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 12:17 pm
by Genebaby
Peter was not responsible for the makeup on the first album, he somehow let someone else do it and the band and Bill let it slide. Just ignore that abomination!

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 1:46 pm
by poserboy71
Yep, That wasn't the original makeup for Pete.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:40 pm
by ankh
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as far a s i know, the makeup was made by one makeup artist.Years ago, i've found a pic of an old maya/ south america mask form the middle ages.The one you see is the original one, taken from a magazine and attached on the kiss first LP in my possession.Probably you've already seen this pic on other kiss website and also on Genesimmons.com in the letters section.It was posted on the net the first time by your's truly.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:50 pm
by PinkWiz
Yes it wasn't his original makeup, I meant to say "first album Cat design with the tongue".

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:02 pm
by Genebaby
It's just that nobody in Kiss designed that, it was a mistake designed by an outside make-up artist, a terrible representation of Peter's look, ugh. Totally ruins the cover of the first album.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:44 am
by erg2
Yeah. That makes me sad.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:43 am
by KissMyAss
Get your own KISS make up.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:48 am
by KissMyAss
Is Ace stoned?

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:43 am
by jesternjeff
YUP, Peter too ! I have a 2 page magazine that folds out 4 more times, when opened it has two posters on one side and on the other side is articles. The poster side , top poster has Ace & peter very stoned. The magazine is very rare and I have never seen another one like it. I would like to show it to you all but, unfortunately its packed away at my brothers house as I am a traveling entertainer so, needed to store it somewhere safe. When I get back to his city I will take a photo of it and post it.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:14 am
by poserboy71
JJ, What do you do?

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:32 am
by PinkWiz
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Wow, after 30 something years I just noticed that the whiteface went all the way down their necks... never noticed it from the actual album cover pic. In some ways, after all these years, Peter's makeup here is kinda nostalgic... the KISS I was introduced to was the Love Gun/Alive II era and I remember early KISS photos seeming kinda creepy and dangerous (before they were "polished')...

this one of Gene creeped me out as a 5 year old:


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Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:53 am
by KMHayden
PinkWiz wrote: Wow, after 30 something years I just noticed that the whiteface went all the way down their necks... never noticed it from the actual album cover pic. In some ways, after all these years, Peter's makeup here is kinda nostalgic... the KISS I was introduced to was the Love Gun/Alive II era and I remember early KISS photos seeming kinda creepy and dangerous (before they were "polished')...

this one of Gene creeped me out as a 5 year old:
Gah! Look at his face! :shock:

I just noticed the whiteface too. 'Cept for Frehley, the lazy one out of the bunch. :)

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:48 pm
by jesternjeff
Guess I dont have to show the poster, these are the two images I was talking about ! Guess the mag is not as rare as I thought ! lol

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:54 pm
by jesternjeff
poserboy71 wrote:JJ, What do you do?
I tried sending a private message, if it didnt go through please send me one and Ill tell you what I do !

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:31 am
by erg2
I always thought the make-up should go all the way down...as if their skin were white. However, that would never work because they can't paint their hands (easily) and they would've had to paint anyplace their costume had exposed flesh. Obviously this would be a problem for Paul.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:11 am
by PinkWiz
erg2 wrote:I always thought the make-up should go all the way down...as if their skin were white. However, that would never work because they can't paint their hands (easily) and they would've had to paint anyplace their costume had exposed flesh. Obviously this would be a problem for Paul.
I've thought about that too, but when you look at the makeup as "masks" it works.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:31 pm
by SherryBurke
Well what I can say about it I'm just confuse! The makeup was designed by one makeup professional.Years ago, i've found a pic of an old south america protect up kind the black age categories.The one you see is the exclusive one, taken from a publication and linked on the hug first LP in my possession.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:12 pm
by ankh
i beg you pardon?

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:31 am
by BigEd
That's gotta be some "STRONG" Shit....:shock:

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:54 am
by doublev2
I think its spam.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:06 am
by poserboy71
SherryBurke wrote:Well what I can say about it I'm just confuse! The makeup was designed by one makeup professional.Years ago, i've found a pic of an old south america protect up kind the black age categories.The one you see is the exclusive one, taken from a publication and linked on the hug first LP in my possession.
I believe Sherry B . is speaking of the tribal mask that depicts similar makeup to Peter's makeup on the first album.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:11 am
by erg2
I think she means this thing-
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg72/sca ... es=landing

Can't get caught up by the language barrier. This is an international board and not all of us are speaking English as our first or primary tongue!

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:25 am
by poserboy71
erg2 = BINGO !!!!

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:43 am
by doublev2
oh ok. sorry if i have upset anyone. I thought it sounded like spam but maybe not.

Re: What if the Fox and Ankh makeups would've come first?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:10 pm
by erg2
You should be ashamed of yourself!

Not for this, but for the numerous sexually depraved thoughts you had at age 13.