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What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:21 pm
by Portillo
If you could play guitar and write songs like Vinnie, what would you have done with your life?
What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:33 pm
by Genebaby
I would have toured the world many times and made many kick ass albums with Kiss, plus some solo stuff along the way.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:53 pm
by shramiac
Work my ass off and give thanks to God everyday for my talent.
I'm sick of swearing at God for my hack guitar playing!
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:17 pm
by doublev2
I think we all have it in us to do what we want , its just hard to live if you go for your goals
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:31 am
by 1031
I would have continued to write and play with Kiss and look at the big picture be respectful to past kiss music . After animalize ask for a slightly better deal including a bit of merch income, continued cost of living raise and the ability to write and record for other musicians on down time and the exclusion of any personal income from any thing outside of kiss. I would have been very reasonable to endorsement and artist models and pimp myself like a 25 cent hooker at a 50 cent arcade. When kiss went to the classic make up I would not change any of my standard deal but ask for a ten year / replacement 1 million dollar parachute bonus. And above all not be a dick.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:43 am
by reneroxx
Making my own success in my invasion triying to work as a band and making killer records and making me actitude easy for everyone.Tour and tours in good places big places and clubs never we could deserve more.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:33 am
by doublev2
Yeah . Keeping a really cool attitude would have worked wonders for vv and his talent
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:53 am
by ozone73
I have a friend named Brian who is really good on guitar. He can play KISS perfectly and he's really into the whole 80's hair band thing like I am. The funny thing is that he's black. I've always found it funny but the guy is really talented but he does nothing with it. I could only dream about playing guitar like him ... here he is with this amazing talent and it's just wasting away. Kinda reminds me of V.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:54 pm
by Portillo
shramiac wrote:Work my ass off and give thanks to God everyday for my talent.

Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:34 pm
by metatron
Portillo wrote:shramiac wrote:Work my ass off and give thanks to God everyday for my talent.

Fuck'en ah!
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:23 am
by doublev2
if i were vv with those great tunes i may have not given them to kiss.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:16 am
by KissMyAss
Totally rock out every day!
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:54 am
by vvjunkie
The trouble with so many of us is that we underestimate the power of simplicity. We have a tendency it seems to over complicate our lives and forget what's important and what's not. We tend to mistake movement for achievement . We tend to focus on activities instead of results. And as the pace of life continues to race along in the outside world, we forget that we have the power to control our lives regardless of what's going on outside.
There are two things which prevents us from achieving our dreams. The first is the belief that they are impossible and the second one is seeing them made possible by the twist of the wheel of fortune when we least expect it. For all that moment, all our fears rise to the surface :
The fear of suddenly setting off a long road to God knows where
The fear of a life full of new challenges
the fear of losing forever all that is familiar
Now that I got that out my head I think I would have done the same as most of you.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:02 pm
by poserboy71
FUCKED WHORES.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:21 pm
by PinkWiz
who needs talent?
I would just sue everybody who looked at me wrong.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:08 pm
by doublev2
That's accurate. Give your money to attorneys.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:10 pm
by doublev2
Or file bankruptcy when the lawyers and courts come asking for their money.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:42 am
by KissMyAss
What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:54 am
by Genebaby
It's funny cause it's true!!!!
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:45 pm
by doublev2
yes it is true. Sue the hand that feeds you is VV's motto.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:35 am
by AshesToAshes
fly like an eagle
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:13 pm
by Portillo
Genebaby wrote:I would have toured the world many times and made many kick ass albums with Kiss, plus some solo stuff along the way.
The great thing about Gene and Paul is that they let members do solo albums. Some bands like Metallica dont allow that.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:49 pm
by PinkWiz
Portillo wrote:The great thing about Gene and Paul is that they let members do solo albums. Some bands like Metallica dont allow that.
BILL AUCOIN allowed the solo albums... once he was gone Paul wouldn't even let Eric Carr have one tune on an album. Thank Gene for Lil Caesar...
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:23 pm
by doublev2
Paul most likely thinks why should anyone take the limelight. Most singers sing a whole album unlike Paul and Gene. Its kind of like Tommy Aldridge singing a Whitesnake tune.. its not going to happen. THAT SAID Tommy and Eric do sing on the new albums.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:27 pm
by Portillo
PinkWiz wrote:BILL AUCOIN allowed the solo albums... once he was gone Paul wouldn't even let Eric Carr have one tune on an album. Thank Gene for Lil Caesar...
I didnt know that. Gene says in this interview though that you can release solo albums and do whatever you want. Fast forward to 4:50.
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Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:04 pm
by PinkWiz
The solo albums were in the contract they signed back in 1976. It was Aucoin's idea as it was an easy way to fulfill their obligations. Of course Gene will take credit after the fact... he learned business from the best of them (Aucoin, Bogart, Delaney, Biowitz).
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:36 pm
by poserboy71
PinkWiz wrote: ...he learned SHOW business from the best of them (Aucoin, Bogart, Delaney, Biowitz).
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:03 pm
by doublev2
to be honest i have to say i don't think gene is as genius at business as he gets credit for. He fucked up big time in the 80s, started a magazine that flopped in the 90s (a magazine I did a job for actually). I think he just had a good product to sell which came out of the original hard work. To be honest the very 'family' target audience they are going for now I dont think is a great idea. I think they should turn real 'bad and dark' . Shock some parents again instead of putting a smile of their faces.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:43 pm
by BigEd
Gene's hard work in the beginning is what got Kiss recognized and yes the (4) mentioned people were what got the gimics and merchandising up and running. Gene has made a few mistakes including letting Kiss become a "Family" carnival event in the Dynasty/Unmasked era and by going Hollywood in the 80's with his movie deals...instead of working hard at making great music like the COTN & LIU albums! Gene did what was best for him and he has since "mastered" the art of selling the KISS image, it's become more on how to make lots of $$$$ instead of making lots of great music....
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:51 pm
by doublev2
Yeah, but I forgot to say the guy is a genius self promoter and I do think he is intelligent and funny. I also like he promotes reel to reel recording.
Re: What would you have done with Vinnies talent?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:16 pm
by KissMyAss