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Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:39 am
by mylittleguitar
Same as the Black Charvel, here is the red one. I don't know if this neck version is the first or if it's the other.


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Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:09 am
by poserboy71
Excellent !!!! I thought that was an actual guitar .

I believe Vinnie was the first to have EMG pickups AND a Floyd Rose on a guitar. A staple of Rock guitar ever since.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:27 am
by doublev2
I read EMG's were on steinbergers in 1981. Steinburgers were very popular in Europe. But you are correct VV may have been the first guitar player to use them in a famous band

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:39 am
by poserboy71
doublev2 wrote:I read EMG's were on steinbergers in 1981. Steinburgers were very popular in Europe. But you are correct VV may have been the first guitar player to use them in a famous band
...with a Floyd Rose.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:27 am
by FREDDYB3
close up of headstock .....

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Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:28 am
by FREDDYB3
This pic above is the other neck that was on it. (just to clarify) The neck with the darker wood fretboard

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:40 am
by FREDDYB3
The Maple one piece neck that was on it had a Jackson logo on the headstock....

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Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:49 am
by FREDDYB3
In my opinion that red "strat style" guitar that he used on the C.O.T.N tour had at least 3 photographed different neck changes. The pics I posted show 2 of the 3 .... The pic of the 3rd one I have on a poster and it doesn't look like a Charvel or Jackson logo but it's a logo that I do not recognize .

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:11 am
by doublev2
Agreed . Some guy said the body was made across the street.from the new York guitar store vv worked in and where he wrote bots.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:36 am
by mylittleguitar
I'm not sure that Grover Jackson had his logo in 1982 - 83, he was still working for Charvel. For the logo with the ebony fretboard, I think it's the very early Charvel logo.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:54 am
by doublev2
It's such a good model. Great work.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:59 am
by FREDDYB3
I agree mylittleguitar does a awesome job on these..... On the Jackson logo, I think it was one of the 1st Jackson logo's ...I'll check my pic file to see if i have a better, mofre clear shot of it.... but if you look close, I think you can see it's not the Charvel logo

Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:05 am
by Genebaby
That's not a Charvel logo as we know it, and the Charvel logo was around since the 70's. The Jackson logo was available as Randy's guitars were built and they featured it.

Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:06 am
by Genebaby
That logo seems to mimic the Charvel one though.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:07 am
by poserboy71
mylittleguitar wrote:I'm not sure that Grover Jackson had his logo in 1982 - 83, he was still working for Charvel. For the logo with the ebony fretboard, I think it's the very early Charvel logo.
Randy Rhoads********Grover had the basic Jackson logo in 1981 when both of these guitars were built. :wink:
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Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:26 am
by doublev2
Like I said some guy who.worked with vv at we buy guitars or whatever it was called said this guitar was built across the street. I don't think it started out life as a charvel but who knows. The logo is certainly.different.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:28 am
by poserboy71
I understand that it isn't a Charvel/Jackson guitar. I was just pointing out the obvious about the replacement necks. :D :D :D :D

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:32 am
by doublev2
Yes i.agree. rick I am skimming these posts so forgive me .

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:06 am
by poserboy71
Always happy. Never a need for forgiveness :D :D :D :D

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:41 pm
by mylittleguitar
So, that means I have to make another Red Charvel and change the logo on the maple neck :wink:
That's why I want to make his guitars in miniature, it's easy to complete his gear and to have all the variant of his guitars. It could be great if he accepts to speak about it... I'm actually doing this with Bruce Kulick, he's very nice and take the time to answer to all my questions.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:41 pm
by doublev2
He did mention it in private but not in detail. He just said it was a guitar he never liked and used it while other guitars were being worked on.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:35 am
by FREDDYB3
Yes Rick, I believe the Jackson logo on that 1 piece maple neck is of the early handpainted variety... The one with the large "J" and large "K" similar to the logo that is on the headstock of the white Concord V that is in the pic of Randy that you posted. For some reason the pics that I posted are no longer visible to me?
Vic, any Idea why? Can everyone else see them ?

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:38 am
by doublev2
Can not see them either.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:39 am
by doublev2
Maybe vv had the source host take them down?

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:43 am
by FREDDYB3
never mind, i can see them now....

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:55 pm
by mylittleguitar
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Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:03 am
by metatron
Cool :)

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:09 am
by Streetbeat
Time to do the Gene Simmons Spectors !

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:00 am
by doublev2
Did sammy say spector?

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:51 am
by poserboy71
Spector? I don't even know her .

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:53 am
by heavystef
Does anyone know the exact type or model name of vinnie's red charvel? I will need one... :oops:

on ebay i found: nothing... :cry:

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:48 am
by shramiac
It was an assembled guitar of different parts! Does anyone even know if it was in fact Charvel or Jackson parts on it? Maybe it just had a Charvel sticker on the head, then a Jackson sticker (maybe was a Jackson made neck) when it had it's neck replaced???

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:15 am
by poserboy71
Shram is correct. PARTS GUITAR

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:18 am
by doublev2
a guy came on here saying the body was made for Vinnie in New York City while he was working at the guitar store he wrote Back on the streets at. He said it was the place across the road from the store vv worked at actually.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:14 pm
by shramiac
Yes! What Dino said!

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:17 pm
by heavystef
Just working on my own... all needed parts are available on the net...

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:59 am
by Genebaby
Yeah, just build your own man.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:31 pm
by doublev2
This is a quote from the guy talking about the red strat....
cusano used to work at a guitar shop across the street from my old job in nyc  this is maybe 79/80/81? called guitar man guitars not around anymore ...he used one of their custom made strats first tours with kiss ...saw a poster from italy where hes playing a red one......after he joined kiss the nice guy I  met became a jerk ......long story.....this is just between you and me ...hey what do you play?

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:47 pm
by shramiac
"I play brown", would have been the answer! :P

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:33 am
by doublev2
I play in my imagination but reality kicks my ass. When people ask me what I play I usually never hear back from them again.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:08 pm
by doublev2
for what its worth he said that he never really liked this guitar. But you can not trust vv. He said he ran over his guitar with the tour bus and it turned out he just repainted it.
heavystef wrote:Does anyone know the exact type or model name of vinnie's red charvel? I will need one... :oops:

on ebay i found: nothing... :cry:

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:19 am
by Trixxy
get the Jackson Adrian Smith signature, repaint it and change the pickguard

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:23 am
by Trixxy
$500

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:29 am
by shramiac
Good point Trixxy!

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:36 pm
by heavystef
It's the same as charvel san dimas and other pro models. the body ist too shaped. I will get a customized body without any shapings, an original charvel neck, floyd rose trem :wink: and the EMGs seperately. It WILL work, you'll see...

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:47 pm
by doublev2
the red body with white pickup is almost 50s looking. the more I look at it the more I like it. It can cross over to a 60s garage band as well as rock.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:48 pm
by doublev2
i can speak to the guy who knows the guy who made it. he maybe still alive and willing to make one for you.. let me know if you want me to ask?

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:57 pm
by heavystef
wow, that would be soooo cooool! but I think, I am not able to pay it. but, ask him.
thank you so much! :D

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:58 pm
by doublev2
i will see if the guy is still alive. Maybe he is. who knows.

Re: Red Charvel 1

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:01 pm
by heavystef
I found this for the neck, neckplate, hardware and other pieces...

http://stores.ebay.de/The-STRATosphere/ ... =105525814