Its been said a few times VV was very influence and into Def Leopards Pyromania.. he even tried to replicate the drum sound. Anyone hear any other influence with VV and this record?

I have never heard any similarities. It's a really good record and of course was mega successful, so that's a good reason to replicate it's sound right there.

I would think , if anything, that Def Leppard's Hysteria would have possibly influenced the glossiness of VVI's ASG.

wasn't that cheesy ass "hey! tell your friends about uuuuuuuussssssssss" line on ASG originally meant for a def lep album?

No Substitute is basically Photograph... The whole song structure, intro riff, Clean guitars with
with alotta lush voicings etc. I really like em both! Not a rip, just very "inspired by" idea. /Olle

No Substitute was written before Photograph I'd guess? It's on The Warrior demo bootleg which was pre KISS.

Never heard a warrior demo of substitute, are you sure? I was not a fan of the leopard drum sound but bobby said vv was obssesed by it when recording.

doublev2 wrote:Never heard a warrior demo of substitute, are you sure? I was not a fan of the leopard drum sound but bobby said vv was obssesed by it when recording.

Sorry Andrew but I think that Dino is correct here unless you may have heard something that we haven't?

well, unless somebody can prove/show that song exist on a demo pre 1983...I dunno:

Pyromania
Released: 20 January 1983

Vinnie Vincent Invasion (album)
August 2, 1986

Possio wrote:No Substitute is basically Photograph... The whole song structure, intro riff, Clean guitars with
with alotta lush voicings etc. I really like em both! Not a rip, just very "inspired by" idea. /Olle

I can hear similarities. NEAT

that is freaky. i think the structure and a lot of the song is a variation on photograph. blow me down.

just listened to pyromania for the first time in 25 years.. jeez thats a good record.. how did they pull that off? sounds so american for a british band.

Well...................A big D'OH for me!!!! I had Shoot Ya on the brain!!! Again, D'oh!!!!

Never listened to Pyromania!

shramiac wrote:Never listened to Pyromania!

shramiac wrote:Never listened to Pyromania!

Yeah, there are a lot of obscure albums I've never listened to either...

I told you!!!!Now if only more people would listen to me! haha...

I liked the song "Me & My Wine" because of the vid but that's all I really know. My eldest bro had the 1st two DL albums and I probably listened to then when I was a kid & we shared a room but I have no memory of any songs. Next I heard of DL was the not well received Hysteria , and I couldn't stand any of them! I was into Maiden & Dio by then and just never got into DL.

The hysteria songs were played to death on mtv which killed them for me, but the older stuff is good. Can see why vv liked the production, the production of pyromania does sound a little like vvi.
Not saying its a rip off but definitely a big influence like bobby said.

Def leppard never put out a bad album til Adrenalize. They ruled in every way. Did I mention that I love Joe Elliott? <3 <3 <3

I think we know that KMA!!!!

KissMyAss wrote:Def leppard never put out a bad album til Adrenalize. They ruled in every way. Did I mention that I love Joe Elliott? <3 <3 <3

Once Clark was dead, the "soul" of the band was gone. He kept the rock sound and spirit in the band and in the music. Without his influence, there was nothing to stop them from going too far with the over-produced sound and light lyrics.

The record after hysteria was pure calculated shit in my opinion.

erg2 wrote:

shramiac wrote:Never listened to Pyromania!

I never heard De Leppard either. Photograph does seem to have some similarities.

Portillo wrote:

erg2 wrote:

shramiac wrote:Never listened to Pyromania!

I never heard De Leppard either. Photograph does seem to have some similarities.

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Thanks. The riff in the first song sort of sounds like Shoot U Full Of Love.

Listened to Photograph and for me there's no real comparison. Lots of songs have similar structure. Big backup vocals maybe but that's about it. I'm not a big fan of the 1000 voice backup vocals!

Haha. I just feel that an influence in the production is slightly evident seen as he was telling people that's the sound he wanted as well.

Does anyone know what Vinnies favorite bands are? Kiss?

While in kiss he mentioned Jeff beck, led zeppelin and George Harrison as main influences. I believe Hendrix, mamas and papas, queen, Gary Moore, def leopard, holdsworth, whitesnske, van Halen have all been mentioned too. He likes a lot of 60s 70s 80s music .

Good shit. You can never get enough Hendrix, Zep, Leppard, or Van Halen. If you'll excuse me. I gotta go rock out on my mic. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

i think actually in the UK on the Lick it up tour he got in a little trouble for answering a question on what Kiss's influences were. He said Zep, Hendrix and Beck I believe and Gene kind of felt it wasn't the new guys place to answer that. I remember Gene turned saying that those were Vinnie's influences.