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Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:24 pm
by poserboy71
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Post Sep 28, 13 22:42
My encounter with Connie Caravello (Eric Carr's mother)
In the late 90's Eric Carr's parents had a booth at the Middletown NY fleamarket. I had learned of the booth by my father and stepmother, whom at that time lived in nearby Warwick. It was explained to me as a "Kiss" booth because of all the memorabilia that was featured, you could imagine my surprise when I visited the fleamarket and learned the owners were EC's parents!
Connie Caravella was present this day and she was an incredibly sweet woman. In reflection there are so many questions that I wished I had asked, but because I was so surprised I didn't know what to say. The following is what I clearly remember from that day.

The booth had personal items owned by EC and displayed for sale. The ONLY item that was featured but NOT for sale was the complete 1987 drum set from the Crazy Nights tour (metallic with the chikara symbols). The drum set was completely set up on the floor and I touched the metal drums as well as the chikara symbol (which was vinyl stickers I believe). There was some large paintings that fans had made for Eric throughout the years. The one that sticks out to me (and was my favorite) depicted the band from the 1980 People magazine cover. The painting was absolutely beautifully done and the background was either purple or blue with lighting bolts striking down towards Gene, Ace and Eric' head (Paul was down towards their feet area). Also I remember a cross that EC had worn in a bunch of photo shoots from the CN era as well as a pair of sunglasses were for sale.

I asked Connie who Eric was close with and she said Ace and Vinnie remained very close to him after they had left the band. After Eric' death, Vinnie had written a song called "An Elephants Last Parade" in memory of him (I don't follow VV so not sure if this is already public knowledge).
She said that Gene was always friendly with she and Eric's father and spoke about he giving Eric the Porsche when he joined he joined the band but that Paul wasn't very outgoing to speak with them. She did state that Gene tried to contact Eric while he was in the hospital but at some point Eric cut all ties with G&P (which is what has been said for years). She also said that Eric was afraid he was going to be replaced or knew that he was going to be replaced.

She was present when he passed and I asked what his last moment was and what he said and she said that he looked up at her and said "mom" and that was it.

I purchased a VHS compilation featuring various footage, which I asked her to sign the cover. There was 5 or 6 photographs 4x6 of Eric from different ages of his childhood (ranging from age 5 to teens) and I stupidly sold those photos on ebay in 2002 to someone in Germany. A few years later I came across the photos on a website called Kissforums or something like that. I am not sure if it is still up and running. I did, however, keep the VHS tape with Mrs Caravello's signature on the cover as well as a letter that she sent me for their booth. I will look for the items and take a pic if anyone is interested.

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:31 pm
by doublev2
Thats heart breaking. Really nice to know eric and vv stayed friends.

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:49 pm
by doublev2
I have family in warwick Ny. Real nice town. About 1.5 hours from new york city.

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:51 pm
by doublev2
Surely vv should put out that song for eric. That would be way cool.

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:52 pm
by shramiac
Yes it would!


Still sounds like it's a requiem for Gene though! :twisted:

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:17 pm
by Genebaby
Yes, heartbreaking. I thought he was in a coma and never woke up.

Never heard of that song before, Vinnie was wise to hide it from us. He underestimates the Power of the VVFF.

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:18 pm
by shramiac
Thanks Darth Vic.

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:08 pm
by PinkWiz
Wow.

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:34 pm
by Genebaby
shramiac wrote:Thanks Darth Vic.
:) :) :)

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:45 pm
by heavystef
In Germany we would say: "That puts another light on Vinnie".

Every person has two sides.

God only knows what has to happen, to let Vinnie show his "loving" side...

Feels good to know this story...

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:46 am
by poserboy71
It puzzles me that a person that wrote music that lifted me and helped my confidence develop MAY struggle with his own confidence.
Vinnie isn't a tyrant. I believe he does what any of us would do if we were screwed by the business.
Mind you, We wouldn't take anything that isn't ours but some of those things aren't cut and dry and yet the Tom Palecki situation is BOLD.


Like I've said before, My group of friends and I hold each others balls over the fire and call each other out on BULLSHIT.

Vinnie has never done me wrong. He has responded to an overzealous fan and did what he felt he must do. Fair enough. He was correct in saying that he never asked me to do interviews or be a peacemaker...

HOWEVER, I do believe that it would be in Vinnie's best interest to make amends with ,box set purchasers, plus Tom Palecki and Richie Ranno.
This would help turn the karma tides in his favor.


Vin, Do the correct thing and let's finally witness your REVENGE.


As for the song for Eric Carr, I want no such power unless it is shared by Vinnie or the Caravello family. That seems like a very INSIDE song title and it was meant as a tribute to a close friend that went through a similar situation with the Kiss Company.
I believe that Eric would have definitely done some projects with Vinnie had he overcame his illness.
I agree with Stef, Hearing this story feels good !!!!

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:00 am
by shramiac
+1

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:29 am
by doublev2
actually if he overcame cancer i really think it would be seriously possible.

Didn't they stop Eric playing with Ace yet the let Eric Singer go out on the road with Alice after he was a member of kiss (if i am not mistaken).

Vinnie said he would have had Eric Carr in his band which doesn't sound much like an even footing though.

A little band where both Vinnie and Eric sang would have been great though.

Re: Vinnie's relationship with Eric Carr

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:35 am
by PinkWiz
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