Would it not be great for KISS to put out the whole pro shot show from
Cascals Hall Lisbon, Portugal Oct 11, 1983 instead of just the two clips that are on the Kissology Vol 2 ?

I would be thrilled.

Also, I'm also always hearing about demos of Back On The Streets w/Paul Stanley singing on it from the LIU era.

That whole show would be totally frickin' awesome!! No doubt about that. There is so much stuff Kiss have yet to give us.

I believe the demo with Paul singing is on Youtube but I haven't found it.

I have always heard that the version of Back on the Streets with Paul Stanley singing was one of the best versions according to Vinnie. I have never heard this but if some one ever comes across a copy PLEASE post it on the forum so that we can all enjoy this.

Many thanks

Kev

I'm suprised he would even admit that :~

Are there any pro shot video shows out there from the Lick It Up era?

There would be, we just don't have them strangely enough. Most things get released to the bootleg market but I haven't seen a whole Lick It Up show unfortunately.

There is also an interview with vinnie when he said the kiss version was not good, I think its on this board.. the trouble with interviews the journalists fuck up a lot on quotes so who knows what he said really.

strangeways wrote:Are there any pro shot video shows out there from the Lick It Up era?

http://kissasylum.com/Archives/News/201 ... nder.shtml

"Looking ahead, Stanley says work has begun on "KISSOLOGY IV," the fourth in a series of DVDs that chronicle KISS' history. It will include live footage of the band's 2009 show at Cobo Hall in Detroit as well as classic footage from the KISS vaults. He agrees when it is suggested that chronology is no longer necessary for the series, and that should items missing from the first three discs be discovered - such as pro-shot shows from the "Lick It Up" and "Asylum" tours - they should be included."

Glad to see that some others are thinking the same thing.

Ooh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will, of course, keep buying the Kissology sets but am disappointed that they couldn't have done them correctly the first time by keeping them chronological and including all eras of the band.

DAMNN i always wanted to see some asylum shows

erg2 wrote:I will, of course, keep buying the Kissology sets but am disappointed that they couldn't have done them correctly the first time by keeping them chronological and including all eras of the band.

I'm quite sure G&P will do some superduper special remastered limited edition Kissology chronological order boxset blueray set to sell it's fan base for nominal fee.

metatron wrote:I'm quite sure G&P will do some superduper special remastered limited edition Kissology chronological order boxset blueray set to sell it's fan base for nominal fee.

And I'll be the sucker buying it...

Hey, at least you will get what you paid for!

Had to say it, someone was going to!

Genebaby wrote:Hey, at least you will get what you paid for!

Had to say it, someone was going to!

...sigh...

I think there's an DEMO of Euphoria floating around I still have to listen. Would love for that one to pop-up eventually...

The Vinnie Euphoria? Isn't that listed in the bootleg section here?

erg2 wrote:The Vinnie Euphoria? Isn't that listed in the bootleg section here?

Yes that one, and no, at least I wasn't able to find it there. HOWEVER, I did eventually found it on KISStory Volume 24 after a whole night in google, so its all good now, :3

Apparently it's an Alternate Cut, but I believe it's just the version from the Guitarmageddon sessions.

My wish list:

Vinnie playing together with Gene an d Paul old and new tunes - in his Ankh make up

Well, I'll be dammed, KISStory Volume 24 could be easily called "The Guitars from Hell bootleg in good quality".

Cernex wrote:Well, I'll be dammed, KISStory Volume 24 could be easily called "The Guitars from Hell bootleg in good quality".

He he

[youtube][/youtube]

I had to upload it to youtube myself, but there, that's the version I was talking about, JIC.

I hadn't heard that version. Every version I had found sounded like different quality levels of the same one I had heard over and over. Is there a place to download this version?

Look for a working torrent of KISStory Volume 24. Odds are you could eventually find a rapidshare or a megaupload if you look hard enough, but I eventually got a bit frustrated and went for a torrent that had ALL KISStories (there are 28 volumes) instead.

You can attach the mp3 file to a post here.

Genebaby wrote:You can attach the mp3 file to a post here.

Oh! Good idea, Vic!

I like it!!!!

wish list.
VV puts out music at normal prices. Stops acting like a 8 year old school yard bully and seeks out a very good shrink.

Nasty! But truthful, sadly!

Haha won't happen

Yeah, maybe that was too much. Just the normal prices would be cool.

OK, I listened to this version of Euphoria. My thoughts:
- MUCH better overall mix and tone than the Euphoria EP version
- A lot less Frankensteined cut & paster moments
- The rhythm guitar in the verses doesn't work as well as the EP version

In general, it sounds more "live" and the guitar solo is more interesting.

I think I might like it not only better than the Euphoria EP version, but a LOT better.

Why isn't this version o the Euphoria EP? Great mix and MUCH better!

I picture Vinnie endlessly tweaking and tweaking and tweaking, overthinking it until he was unable to separate himself from it, and eventually "produced" it until it had everything HE wanted.

that would explain him "programing" the drums. The alternate version/demo version has authentic drums, without a doubt...

At least I think they are...