Vinnie to sell "Private collection master recordings"

[Genebaby]

What do we think of this?

Smells like Box Set stuff to me......

[Genebaby]

This is the text:

I'm Working for a CHRISTMAS RELEASE. Many fans have been waiting so patiently for VVI music to be released. I'm about ready to meet the releases that have been so desired by the VV faithful. Keep watching for announcements... A Christmas release is imminent. Each disc will be a plain disc plain sleeve very limited collection piece, handwritten signed titled and numbered in my handwriting to each person..these are private releases. Worldwide availability of 500 pieces only. Once they are spoken for, there will be no more.
My Intel has informed me there are numerous pirating entities watching and waiting like a hawk to seize whatever I release and bootleg it.
To protect my creation, Each disc will be $300 each, signed as a collection piece. Once All 500 pieces are purchased through PayPal, they will bulk ship.
This protects premature pirating. Credit card/ pp purchases are protected.
if the fan support is there, this is what to expect the price will be for these private recording collection pieces. There is a bank vault of recordings i have been preparing for release. The time is almost here.
I understand the bitching, the moaning, the whining about price, but you must also understand that my situation is as such that my music is so desired that it will be targeted and taken from me immediately, which I cannot/will not allow.
I wish it was not this way, but I'm honored that it is..
It's a double-edged sword for me, but I sincerely hope that when you think it through you will understand the dilemma I face... VV
My love to every member of the VV / VVI family.

[Genebaby]

That's a total of US$150,000 Vinnie is looking for, before anyone gets anything, to battle the modern age piracy.

You would think all the fans who he owes a box set to would get two discs each as a start? It's no box set, but it's something.

If his music is in such demand there should be no problem selling these, you would think.....

[Genebaby]

Working for a Christmas release is code for Christmas 20xx. He didn't sepcify which Christmas, which leads me to think there will be delays.

You would think he'd be pretty able to burn off the discs in fairly decent time, just gotta power through with the burning. The sooner he starts, the sooner he finished.

The danger is the paypal refund time limit being reached due to "unavoidable delays" and then you're left with nothing, like the original box set.

And in true Vinnie fashion, all other "projects" are seemingly abandonded. No vinyl that's been waiting for centuries to be pressed etc....just whatever this is supposed to be, until it's abandonded for the next promised thing.

Oh Vinnie.....

[aeroflott]

300 bucks for a blank CD with his scrawl on it.

Jesus Christ.

My Intel has informed me there are numerous pirating entities watching and waiting like a hawk to seize whatever I release and bootleg it.

Your Intel? Absolute nonsense.

[Genebaby]

Vinnie's got agents out there man, scouring ahead where he's going to be and gathering the much needed intel on things like all those pirates, ready and waiting to recieve something from the Vinnie archives. It's a thing man.

These are the same agents who told him he is a target for shooters in the 90's when he went to Europe. He needed protection due to his being so high profile, putting him up there with John Lennon.

[birnie]

I wonder what the take up is on this sort of stuff.
There must be a few crazies who throw their money at eveything he offers

[Genebaby]

We may never know, but if they sell out enough for him to actually "deliver" then we'll know it reached the threshold, but I would not want to risk this. There is no timeline for when the "product" will be ready Vs when it might eventually sell enough for the release.

It would be a lot safer bet if you could be sure that enough people would jump on it within a week or two, but this could drag on forever, and as has been noted, Vinnie is big on announcing products, but not on the releasing part.

[birnie]

Yeah, I cant belive he actually wrote "Keep watching for announcements.."
He gets bagged out for constantly doing that, and keeps doing it......and keeps not doing anything else
He's freegan 73 !
It's all down hill from there (has been for awhile)
Face it Vinnie, you'll produce nothing, blame everyone else.....and then, probably not far away, be 6 feet under.

[Genebaby]

99.9% this won't go ahead and there will be something else to spruke, garnering excitment from the faithful, until the next and the next.....

[aeroflott]

Emperors new clothes.

The level of simp going on in that Facebook Group is astonishing. Its very strange - never seen anything like that before. Its like a cult worship thing going on. Mostly females. I would feel very uncomfortable hawking overpriced products to what is clearly a somewhat vulnerable group of "fans".

But hey. What do I know. I'm just an idiot on a laptop, not the ex-lead guitar player from Kiss.

[Genebaby]

Don't forget there is also the 'can't say anything true that is bad" type rule. That means that pretty much all the posts "have" to be positive and praising.

Why they want to keep doing that is another question.

[doublev2]

So you pay $300 then wait until all orders are complete before you buy. With vv track record even if complete you wont get . How would anyone know complete anyway . And if not complete he keeps money and you dont get.

Also if you piss him off on social media order canceled but he keeps your money

Its a loose loose loose

[doublev2]

Christmas release of you sending money. The release is you paying then if he gets enough sales maybe Christmas 2026 but looks like the boxset part 2 but shouldn't be as bad as not many will buy

[doublev2]

I wouldn't doubt its speedball jamm re packaged or something very similar. I doubt its songs

[Genebaby]

It surely will amount to nothing, as the risk is too great. Why does he do this? It's ass-backwards. $300 of blank CD-Rs is not a lot, or has it gone up since I last bought a big 100 pack? Haven't bought any in years....Vinnie continues to live in the past.

[doublev2]

He is worried to loose his songs to bootleg because he has nothing new . If he could make new stuff he would take it on the chin like all the other bands do. New acts are having to compete with AI and collapse of being able to have a career unless you make it on tiktok so having speedball.jamm 2 bootlegged is only the concern of someone who has lost confidence or cant record . And thats not an insult as I understand mental health, or ahe or desire or physically ability can get in way but I am.pointing out it doesnt look good and its even more ridiculous to pay a lot of money for something and then have to wait and hope that the whole order release will be filled. Also there is no guarantee once sold out it the end as with the ep he said that then re released as euphoria.

Its madness and he is making conflict and problems for himself.

Also the record was at the vinyl press years ago.. so if that was a lie how can anyone believe this.

As I always said stop pre sales, stop announcements. Just put a post up out of nowhere the thing is now available for purchase.

He is doing this to stall and have excuses which is a shame as I and everyone would get behind anything good that doesnt have these weird rules and conditions attached. Just put the thing out and hope for the best.

[Genebaby]

It is complete madness and follows the same pattern. Something is always coming, wait for the exciting announcement, then move on to the next thing, which this time is another overpriced pre-order with too much risk.

I don't understand how the people on the page are not sick of this, though there is the issue of no constructive criticism allowed so perhaps most are keeping their mouths shut, but I couldn't do it.

I'd have to come here and say what I'm thinking!

[shramiac]

Just put it on itunes, spotty, etc...

You''ll sell more.... even if it's the "haters" that buy it. A scumbag's money is as valuable as a decent person's!

[Genebaby]

Well, from all the teasers and the album being finished twice and ready for pressing, cause it's the 70s, that would be all too easy.