(855) 882-9172 disconnected

[poserboy71]

I had to try the number(for the V V TM1 guitar) for shits and giggles to see what happened and it has been disconnected. I don't know if this has been posted or not.

Vinnie,
"WE" (STILL YOUR FANS) have spoken by not buying a thing. This sucks for all of us because we were hoping to purchase some official product and see you again. It sucks to see the guitar phone number disappear, the catalogs... GONE, the next thing to go will be YOU !!!

We didn't avoid your product because of quality or rumors that surround you. Most of us simply cannot afford what you were asking. We hope this doesn't drive you away for good.

I think it is high time that you approach TJ MONSTER about an OFFICIAL V V line. TJ will hopefully be acquiring a CNC Machine soon and he could pump out high volumes of high quality ,accurate versions of your favorite guitars.

The time is NOW to do something different to achieve a better result for you and your fans.
Let's all quit fucking around and be a team.

[shramiac]

If Dokken can survive all those years with the in-fighting, surely we can get all get along!

[poserboy71]

If Dokken can survive all those years with the in-fighting, surely we can get all get along!

Very bad comparison !!!

[Genebaby]

Vinnie, it is truly time to get your head out of the clouds. Whoever you partner with to do business, do not put a crazy high fee on top for your commission.

This will avoid the crazy prices we got for the guitar and catalog. We don't know the full details but it's obvious that you want massive $$$ on top of what woiuld be a normal price. Witness the thousands extra being charged for overseas orders. How is that defendable? Wherever someone is all they should be charged is Cost + Shipping, not Cost + $4000 + Shipping.

All is never lost, get in touch and we can help you to get a proper comeback organised.

Vic

[TJMonster]

I'm ready to take on your blessing Vinnie. But I will tell you, I won't go for any more than $500 royalty per neck through guitar and $100 per bolt on. Any more than that you will be scaring away sales. What's better, selling 8 guitars for $4000 or 1? 8 guitars will be seen a lot more than one. Plus it builds a better reputation. 1 guitar is silly and doesn't work in today's market. It won't be seen. The only people that can afford it don't take them out to shows to be seen by thousands of potential buyers. Every weekend!!!!

[Skwint]

Vinnie - all we have asked is that you acknowledge your fans - driving us away for whatever reason does no one any good - not least yourself - your guitar playing and song writing speak for themselves but yet we have not heard any official word from yourself in many many years.

As a fan all i want to know is that you are ok - the chance to hear some new tunes or even re mastered older stuff is important to us.

I would have loved to buy the guitar but with a young family in these times i just could not justify that kind of money without a divorce.

Now the phone number is gone, you wont give us an interview or even any acknowledgment that you are even involved in this venture.

We know that you or your 'people' read the board so come on we wont bite - we are fans which is why we are here - speak to us - explain whats going on - we could help - you know we have the knowledge to help.

[metatron]

TJ....I wouldn't even consider making guitars in his name. Fuck him! There is only one real choice punters have anyway, & that is a Monster...No one can afford a $9000 guitar that has questionable builders like Palecki backing it.. And that $500 that you would give him is better spent on your bottom line (your workshop) or the customer getting better hardware for the axe. I wouldn't do it. You've got the market pretty much covered on the number of people who are going to want a Vinnie Vincent looking guitar. Just my 2 cents worth.

[doublev]

My theory is you have to have a phone number listed for namm. I doubt he ever planned to use it.

[poserboy71]

Dino bringing the voice of reason. So obvious when you think about it.

[TheGoodDr]

Another obviously successful business venture from VV Productions. Honestly, why does the guy even bother?
Sure the guy has talent for playing the guitar, but on how to market and sell your own produce.......he hasn't got a fucking clue!

[Fullshed]

Another obviously successful business venture from VV Productions. Honestly, why does the guy even bother?
Sure the guy has talent for playing the guitar, but on how to market and sell your own produce.......he hasn't got a fucking clue!

"True Dat" Doctor-

The dude has two recordings that no one has an idea why he wouldnt release them.

[doublev]

Why he didn't try to keep up some momentum after namm is beyond me. I think its down to lack of money. Using YouTube as the only form of info is total amateur madness and doesn't help in any way to make this project look anything other than the usual scam.
You would think palecki would at least know this.
The only hope is a distributor and a reduction in price to under 3k plus a YouTube demo and picture of vv or someone respected playing it.

[birnie]

I got to talk to you, Vinnie, set the record straight.
'Cause this relationship is goin' from love to hate.
You're always trying to make me do things that're really dumb,
And we're always disagreein' on how to have fun......

[doublev]

I think v really enjoys having enemies and fighting. He certainly likes to test people and I think what he has done to his fans is part of that.

[Genebaby]

I do not think there was much momentum from NAMM unfortunately. Any guitar based forum that found out about the guitars and the price did not have kind words.

I would have thought he would at least stick to his guns and keep at it. Hey, if 9K is what he wanted to charge, then stick with with it man and show us you have the balls to do this your way. Just because you're crazy doesn't mean you have to stop.

[doublev]

i think namm was the classic case of signing up to something you were not ready for and hoping it would all work out. He said he planned competitions and all kinds of things that never happened.
I don't see any business at all.
Even if they went to China to make the guitar, they still can not sell something via youtube or via any company run by him. It has to be through a distributor and I assure everyone, even if VV can get the unit price down to $500 each, he would add 3 to 4k at least to himself.

[doublev]

and you know if you buy one it will be by that strange TM1 company which is suggesting its something other than v sitting in his home.

They need some pros to take over.. the thing is no pros will deal with him.

At least have Tom run everything and deal with AZG in Arizona . The company needs to have an office that is physically possible to show up to (no PO Box's).. they need a phone number that people answer 9-5 on.. they need a pro website etc... They need a clear honest payment scheme and if 4 have been made already, why would you need to put a deposit down on them. Just have them out ready to sell!!!

A non refundable deposit should be way lower than 5k.. that is a joke and again proof they are planning to rip there customers off. A non refunable deposit for something that has no track record from a new company that is linked to someone who has taken deposits before is the biggest joke I ever heard.

I would say a $400 deposit max for something like this and a contract on there behalf.. but again he has a record of just going bankrupt..

If he was smart he would eliminate all risk. The best way would be to sell the already made guitar on ebay. He could start it a 9k like he wants but he needs to build up some track record.

The most crazy thing was the escarow claim regarding the non refundable deposit. double talk to the highest order!!! Your non refundable deposit is safe in escrow.. how can that be if its non refundable. Crazy shit.

[TJMonster]

TJ....I wouldn't even consider making guitars in his name. Fuck him! There is only one real choice punters have anyway, & that is a Monster...No one can afford a $9000 guitar that has questionable builders like Palecki backing it.. And that $500 that you would give him is better spent on your bottom line (your workshop) or the customer getting better hardware for the axe. I wouldn't do it. You've got the market pretty much covered on the number of people who are going to want a Vinnie Vincent looking guitar. Just my 2 cents worth.

He'll never take it. He's to greedy. Wants it all at once.