Just got a pm from one of vinnies zombies .
I have no idea why he pm'd me but here you go. I am so over dealing with this crap. If it wasn't for Paul and gene no one would know who vv is. If vv hadn't of fucked over countless people he would be treated like a ledgend.. but he didn't .
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Hello...
Sent: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:41 am From: BigEd To: doublev2
I am CRDEDWARD...I am the one who posted all of Vinnie's High School pictures, I am probably one of the closest to Vinnie...I grew up 10 minutes from him and know the family quite well...I enlisted on this Forum as a favor to Vinnie, I will not post or reply to any messages that are considered hateful or harmful or just straight out lies...I will observe and give some input at times...Just ask yourself, how would you "HANDLE" all of the tragic things that he has been through + being screwed by G & P Thanks, Ed
Ed used to speak to me a lot . He even said vv called one night but he missed the call. He acts like I dont.know who he is. Why did vv want him to come on here? We all know the biggest reader of this board is vv himself.
Vinnie stop sending big ed , over blow and whoever here to argue and go out and make some music... Vinnie you.are a prisoner of your past .. forget it .. free yourself.. and fucking enjoy your life and make.music or just be nice to.everyone. I don't want to say it but something ain't right about this behavior.
All of us have been screwed before by life in general in some way or another.. its not a free pass to be a dick toward the people who still support you (or just people in general).
I don't believe he got screwed . If he did why did he go back for revenge and why in 96 did he call.them family.and he would do anything for them unless he was trying to.get kiss fans to hand over cash for the box set.
Typical Vinnie Zombie. They refuse any kind of real honest dialog because they'll have to face the truth if they do. They post a statement here, a statement there, but an actual conversation will requires both sides to listen, that is something the Vinnie zombie can't allow to happen under any circumstances.
Q..."How would you handle the things he's been through + being screwed by Gene & Paul?"
A...Well I wouldn't single out the few people that offered support & understanding and one by one abuse, defame and humiliate them in public. If that's his only method of dealing with his problems then I say take a look around, what has it got you ? You have forced everyone who gave a damn into a position where they can no longer offer any kind of support. You did that, nobody else.
Ed was real nice. He told me about his wife looking after vv's dad in hospital. He said I was doing a great job running thr dv board and many things, but now vv is instructing him like he's a pawn on a chess board... It's real scary.
I really thought I was going to get a pm from ed telling me what shit vv pulled on him.
On one hand I am happy he contacted me. I would normally keep this quiet but I don't give a shit anymore. I look forward to eds vinnie approved reply.
I feel horrible that Vinnie has let his difficulties affect him like they have. All of us here have expressed our concern and care concerning those situations. I have only gone off the deep end when Vinnie SENDS OTHER PEOPLE here to start shit. I would have stayed away from this public forum if Vinnie didn't attack it.
There are subjects on this forum that I don't respond to because some people take it beyond a personal level.
Now bring on the dick jokes !!!!
Vinnie just needs to man up or things will get worse . I still pray for the guy.
THINK: Porter Wagoner
I am the Undisputed Sex Symbolof theVVFF NEWBEGINNINGS
The ironic thing is that this forum which Vinnie has made very clear he wants to be gone is his LAST chance to make good or at least attempt to turn things around. Sending people over here to accuse the world of lying on his behalf just won't do. That just causes everyone he treated badly to react back at him.
I don't know, it's all very unnecessary really imo. This guy is only harming Vinnie further by making excuses for inexcusable behavior. This guy obviously thinks the events of Vinnies life mean he can do what he wants to innocent folk. There's no logic to it at all. If this is what Vinnie wants us to hear, I'm not sure he should have bothered. It addresses nothing, nothing at all.
poserboy71 wrote:I feel horrible that Vinnie has let his difficulties affect him like they have. All of us here have expressed our concern and care concerning those situations. I have only gone off the deep end when Vinnie SENDS OTHER PEOPLE here to start shit. I would have stayed away from this public forum if Vinnie didn't attack it.
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Makes no difference, I wasn't even a contributing member here, it didn't stop him telling people I was and using that lie against me. You can't apply logic and reason to him.
I understand that but it doesn't stop me from wishing good things for the guy. I don't claim to know how his brain works. People have said that Vinnie might be bi-polar. That would explain things. Reason and logic don't apply to people that suffer from this. I have a few people that I care about that deal with the same issue. It sucks to see anyone suffer.
THINK: Porter Wagoner
I am the Undisputed Sex Symbolof theVVFF NEWBEGINNINGS
poserboy71 wrote:I understand that but it doesn't stop me from wishing good things for the guy. I don't claim to know how his brain works. People have said that Vinnie might be bi-polar. That would explain things. Reason and logic don't apply to people that suffer from this. I have a few people that I care about that deal with the same issue. It sucks to see anyone suffer.
Yep, it does. I've dealt with a few, one is my brother. It's a terrible affliction, very hard to get day to day life on an even keel for long. He won't accept responsibility for his behavior and blames everyone for it. There are usually moments of clarity though. I think we all feel sadness about Vinnie's life to some degree. Once everyone who cared has left or been pushed away it's almost impossible to deal with.
doublev2 wrote:I don't believe he got screwed . If he did why did he go back for revenge and why in 96 did he call.them family.and he would do anything for them unless he was trying to.get kiss fans to hand over cash for the box set.
Vinnie screwed himself as far as his career goes. The biggest loss I was referring to was his ex-wife being murdered. As much as he may or may not have been there for her, I still feel bad for him as far as that goes. It's still not an excuse to treat the last remaining people who support him like shit. It makes no sense... definitely makes me believe the bi-polar thing.
To be honest, I don't care if he's "nice" to me. I have come to terms with the facts that I'll never get my boxset money back...or my boxset and that he'll never be "normal". I just want one thing from the man.
Music.
Open your window and see the real world
To know what you've been missing
Come out of the shadows
Insecurity lies
In a heart afraid to listen
Streetbeat wrote:VINNIE ...HERE'S A WORD OF ADVICE :
RELEASE THE UNRELEASED ,
ENOUGH !
AMEN!!!!
Promises made, crying in vain, all empty. Never accepting the blame and not letting go of the shame. A river of tears, as months turn to years, all wasted. On someone not willing to change.Now only a shadow remains!
We all had sympathy for him until he booted people, lied, robbed, and cheated.
Vinnie has no faith in his own music. The only faith he has is in suing kiss. He needs to move on have faith and just live easy without screwing everyone he can think of.
I am going to leave ed alone. He is now being cool and reasonable. If he wants to post here it would be cool but I am going to leave him be if he dorsnt. He does care for vinnie rain or shine but what I like about him he doesn't blindly attack.
maybe-and i say maybe- it would be nice to know why and how Vinnie was taken advantage of by the group..........coming from a third part.
Coming from somebody else, it would be nice to have this one clearer,and have this aspect more understandable.
i think this is one thing tha t would not create problems to anybody's feelings or friendship.
“Men are apt to be much more influenced by words than by the actual facts of the surrounding reality.” I.Pavlov
I tried talking to Over blown. I guess the tom boy in me comes across as trashy to the filthy minded. Next time, I'll just say, "hey kid, you got guts". Same difference in slang terms, but one cannot be misinterpreted..
Never say the "B-word" around a dog, people might think you want him to hump your leg. You can't be friends. People are talking about you and your dog. Just kidding
So, I've sent messages to girls....talk amongst yourselves
Live life as though it is the third law; "to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Rules apply whether we are cognizant of them or oblivious.
He didn't say anything to me. Doesn't matter to me.
A couple people on the board said something. I was just joking with them about their innuendos, which were incorrect.
Live life as though it is the third law; "to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Rules apply whether we are cognizant of them or oblivious.
Live life as though it is the third law; "to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Rules apply whether we are cognizant of them or oblivious.
You can't be friends. People are talking about you and your dog. 
