Lead Guitar On COTN: Is This Correct?

[thattimeofyear87]

Probably another topic that has been beaten to death…

Creature Of The Night: Steve Farris
Saint And Sinner: VV
Keep Me Comin': VV
Rock And Roll Hell: Robben Ford
Danger: VV
I Love It Loud: VV
I Still Love You: Robben Ford
Killer: VV
War Machine: VV

[doublev2]

Thats what I heard. I thought paul did a solo on one tune though. Not sure if vv played rhythm or not.

[Genebaby]

Adam Mitchell also played on Creatures. He does the lick in between the verses.

[PinkWiz]

Thats what I heard. I thought paul did a solo on one tune though. Not sure if vv played rhythm or not.

I think Eisen just "pretends" to Cusano's solo in the ILIL vid...

[PinkWiz]

I also remember Mitchell saying Carr took a turn at the Creatures solo before Farris nailed it. I would LOVE to hear those outtakes... if any.

[shramiac]

I thought he did the lick at the end of CotN?

Bob this year admitted that none of his solos made it onto the album. I knew it! Killers and Danger always sounded like Vinnie to me.

http://www.examiner.com/article/bob-kul ... -loaf-more

[PinkWiz]

For YEARS I thought Bob played the I Still Love U solo until Robben confirmed he played it in an interview when asked about his "weirdest?" sessions.

[doublev2]

Carr played bass I believe. Would have been awesome if eric had a solo on creatures.

[PinkWiz]

Yes, Carr's bassist on ISLY.

[shramiac]

I thought he did the lick at the end of CotN?

Adam Mitchell I meant, before I was rudely interupted by PW!

[PinkWiz]

[kisslolo]

Bob Kulick lead guitar on "Danger"
Robben Ford lead guitar on "Rock and Roll Hell" and "I Still Love You"
Steve Farris lead guitar on "Creatures of the Night"
Mike Porcaro bass guitar on "Creatures of the Night"
Jimmy Haslip bass guitar on "Danger"
Vincent Cusano lead guitar and backing vocals on "Saint and Sinner", "Keep Me Comin'", "I Love It Loud", "Killer", and "War Machine"

and
Gene Simmons bass guitar, vocals, rhythm guitar on "Killer" and "War Machine"
Eric Carr drums, percussion, backing vocals, bass guitar on "I Still Love You"
Paul Stanley rhythm guitar, vocals


If my memories are well, it seems to me that that's it!

[poserboy71]

Bob Kulick lead guitar on "Danger"

Vincent Cusano lead guitar and backing vocals on "Saint and Sinner", "Keep Me Comin'", "I Love It Loud", "Killer", and "War Machine"

Danger is classic Vinnie. No way it is Bob.

"Saint and Sinner" could be Vinnie's debut of his pedal steel playing on record.

[Genebaby]

Remember, Bob has said he did not play on Creatures.

[kisslolo]

Thanks !

[doublev2]

I wish eddie had played a solo just to hear him play with kiss

[shramiac]

I wish eddie had played a solo just to hear him play with kiss

Yeah, would have been cool!

Everyone would have known it was him though as his playing is so easily recognised! He could never have been in KISS anyway! Not with that goofy mouth of his under the makeup!

[PinkWiz]

Eddie's makeup design:

[shramiac]

You eeeeeeeeedeeeeeeeeot!!!!

[KissMyAss]

[quote="PinkWiz"]Eddie's makeup design:

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[doublev2]

Hehe

What surprise me is they tried to make people think ace played on cratures. How the hell could ace play any of those solos in particular I still love you but all of them. I guess most people didnt think about it back then. Kiss could never have done I still love you if ace was a band member.

[PinkWiz]

I even remember being 11 and thinking "no way did Ace have anything to do with Creatures." The lack of an Ace-penned tune with a lead vocal kinda cued me in too.

[doublev2]

Yeah maybe I take back a little. You would have to know nothing about kiss to think ace played any solos. Now I would enjoy watching ace attempt creatures and I still love you solos.
Have to say the 2 guys who played them did as well or better than vv on that record. Actually my 3 favourite vv era solos were not played by vv weirdly even though I love vv the best.
Exciter. .I.s.l.y.and cotn.

[PinkWiz]

I believe Ace could've rocked the solos on Creatures but in a different way. His limited ability mixed with his sense of melody and killer "sing-along" phrasing would've been great I'm sure.

Too bad he was wrecking cars on the wrong side of the road instead of being thankful for the position he was in with Kiss. I guess when you're in the 1% who are lucky enough to "make it" you don't stop and think about how lucky you really are.

[kisslolo]

The information was very summary in 1982, and the disinformation by Kiss, very in the point! But Ace would have been incapable of played on this album, technically it is very very basic, has one thousand place of a Vinnie, Mark, Bruce or Tommy!

[poserboy71]

The information was very summary in 1982, and the disinformation by Kiss, very in the point! But Ace would have been incapable of played on this album, technically it is very very basic, has one thousand place of a Vinnie, Mark, Bruce or Tommy!

[Genebaby]

I think he means to say he thinks Ace's playing is technically very basic, he like one thousandth of the talent of the other guys?

[kisslolo]

It is my thought!

[poserboy71]

kisslolo, I see what you meant now. Sometimes the broken English is hard to read.

At first I thought that you meant that the guitar playing on Creatures Of The Night was technically basic.

[doublev2]

I would have loved watching ace try and play i still love you solo. I mean watch him struggling.
One ace solo would have been very interesting.

The drums really sound like led zeppelin on that record and traces everywhere.

I still say Peter could have done great on creatures. He did a great job with big drum sound on god of thunder. The drums are genius on that song

[Genebaby]

Yes, a dedicated Peter would have been fine on Creatures, he was still young and strong, just chemically imbalanced to giving a good performance.

[shramiac]

Disagree! I think the album would have sounded lifeless! No double bass drums for a start!

[doublev2]

Not saying Peter would have been better saying the 74 through 77 Peter could have done something good.

[Genebaby]

You don't need double kick to kick ass. Peter has kicked ass on Kiss albums, he would have managed on this one if he was in good shape.

[PinkWiz]

Peter's drums on Creatures would've sounded similar to studio side 4 of Alive II... his drums on Larger Than Life were monsterous.